I believe we all knew that one, James ;)
... but thanks for your clearification none-the-less =)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cakalic, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: EJB = bad = MS.net


> == Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:57 PM
> > To: 'Wes Bramhall '; ''Struts Users Mailing List' '
> > Subject: RE: EJB = bad = MS.net
> > 
> > 
> >  ROTFLMAO!
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wes Bramhall
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > Sent: 2/22/02 2:52 PM
> > Subject: RE: EJB = bad = MS.net
> > 
> > But it's Friday now, so SSS is allowed, right?
> > 
> > (SSS = Small Scale Spamming)
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:45 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: EJB = bad = MS.net
> > 
> > 
> > I thought we had abandoned this thread in favor of Struts related
> > questions
> > =)
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: EJB = bad = MS.net
> > 
> > 
> > > I'm staying out of this discussion, but to answer your question --
> > >
> > > IMNSHO = In My Not So Humble Opinion
> > >
> > > --David
> > >
> > > On Friday 22 February 2002 01:03 pm, you wrote:
> > > > IMNSHO?  What the hell is that?  Man, the colloquial shortcuts are
> > getting
> > > > hairy these days.... :)
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Edward Q. Bridges [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:15 AM
> > > > To: dIon Gillard; Struts Users Mailing List
> > > > Subject: Re: EJB = bad = MS.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "location independence" means independent of location, 
> > that is all.
> > > >
> > > > if you're implementing two interfaces to do (more or 
> > less) the exact
> > same
> > > > thing, and one is called "local" and one is called 
> > "remote" that is
> > > > absolutely *not*, by any stretch of the imagination,  "location
> > > > independent". _end of story_.
> > > >
> > > > with EJBs the method call does not "appear" to be remote, 
> > because it
> > is
> > > > *explicitly* remote.  the method is in a "RemoteInterface" and
> > throws a
> > > > "RemoteException" for crying out loud!
> > > >
> > > > furthermore, it's not about box1 vs box12.  to be more 
> > precise, it's
> > about
> > > > vm1 vs. vm12.  and, if you are writing a client, your client has
> > business
> > > > logic to take care of.  it's the servers responsibility 
> > to determine
> > > > whether it should call a method at vm1 or at vm12.
> > > >
> > > > IMNSHO, this is the achilles heel of EJB.
> > > >
> > > > --e--
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 05:24:22 +1100, dIon Gillard wrote:
> > > > >The method call can take place anywhere, but always appears to be
> > > > >remote. That could be many remote machines though. Location
> > independence
> > > > >is not about local vs remote, it's more about box1 vs box12.
> > >
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