An enterprise portal has much more to offer then something like Liferay and
they are hugely much more complex beasts. That can be both a good thing and
a bad thing. Be sure to evaluate it. I think however that if your company is
looking at something like Epicentric, Liferay is not going to show up in the
radar scope. I don't mean any disrespect to the developers of Liferay, it
does look impressive.

I've been involved in several large scale enterprise portal implementations.
Mainly with Plumtree and recently WebSphere Portal. I've evaluated
Epicentric but never used it so I can't comment on that.

Like others have said, WebSphere portal is based on Jetspeed and it is a
terrific portal to work with especially for custom deployments because the
programming environment and APIs are just fantastic. . I don't know why
Plutree has so much market share, because WS Portal is clearly superior in
my eyes. 

Anyway about using Struts with a Portal. It could work, In fact I think I
saw an article at ibm.com/developerWorks about using struts to create
portlets but I cant seem to find it atm. If I do I'll post back with the
URL. Portlets are essentially mini web apps. You actually deploy war files
onto WS Portal to install Portlets. WSAD supports Portlet development
through a dev kit, which is available for download. You can use JSPs, or
other view technology, and you can also create Portlets from web services.
Using Struts do develop and support a framework of Portlets could be an
interesting possibility. It would probably require modifications to Struts,
others that are more familiar with Struts can jump in on that one.  In fact
I created a few Portlets and used an MVC approach to their design, so I
don't see why something like Struts cannot be used. I might just have to try
it :)

Regards,
John



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mete Kural [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:48 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: Has anyone tried to use struts with Epicentric
> 
> Hmm.. I didn't know that WebSphere was inspired from
> JetSpeed..
> 
> I had been thinking for the longest time about whether
> to abandon Struts for portal development and start
> using JetSpeed. This was due to the fact that I didn't
> know any portal server that is based on Struts. I like
> Struts, but yet without a portal platform that is
> built on top of it I can't do too much. Liferay seems
> to work for me since it is a portal server based on
> Struts. You still set all your action mappings in
> struts-config.xml. So it should be pretty easy to
> learn for Struts users.
> 
> How would you compare JetSpeed and Liferay?
> 
> -Mete
> 
> --- Joe Barefoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Jetspeed is another open-source portal.  Not built
> > with Struts though.  WebSphere uses an enhanced,
> > modified version of Jetspeed under the hood for
> > their portal impl. b.t.w.  Check their docs, they
> > are quite open about it.
> >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/site/index.html
> >
> >
> >
> > --joe
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mete Kural [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:25 PM
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: Has anyone tried to use struts with
> > Epicentric
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > You may also want to consider this open-source
> > free
> > > portal server which is built upon Struts. It's
> > called
> > > Liferay. It may save you a lot of money. I just
> > > discovered this a few days ago. It's the only
> > portal
> > > server that I know of which is built upon Struts.
> > Here
> > > is a live demo to see some pre-built portlets that
> > > come with it: http://my.liferay.com Go to the
> > > "personalization" page to see a list of portlets
> > > available. Some these available portlets are:
> > > Shopping Cart
> > > Message Board
> > > Mail
> > > Wiki
> > > Calculator
> > > Currency Converter
> > > and many more.
> > >
> > > Their website is http://www.liferay.com
> > >
> > > Let me know what you think about it. I'm
> > considering
> > > using this portal server to develop our portal as
> > > well. It may save us $$$$$.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Mete
> > >
> > > --- Mike Ehlers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > My company is in the process of working on the
> > next
> > > > generation of our site
> > > > -- and we've decided to make it a portal.  The
> > > > person who makes decisions
> > > > with regards to purchasing software is trying to
> > > > steer us towards
> > > > Epicentric.  WebSphere is the other option.
> > > >
> > > > I'd like, ideally, to use struts for our
> > > > presentation layer and I was
> > > > wondering if anyone had tried to shoehorn struts
> > > > into a Epicentric
> > > > application.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > >
> > >
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