Write your own cheques if you know FORTRAN!!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: RE: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? > Yep. Once over 30 in IT your far too old to start already as far as most > employers are concerned. I gather that once over 35 you better have moved to > some kind of managerial position already if you dont want it to be your last > gig... > > (Disregard above if you know COBOL) ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexandre Jaquet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 31 March 2003 22:14 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? > > > You had start when the market was pretty good. I've some friend > who have finish their degree last year -september-(one 29, one 40 and > another one > 28) but they still didn't catch any job. > > I finish my degree this year and I already have receive proposition from > three compagnies. > > I think they are *to old* for most of the compagnies rigth now to employ > them > as junior developper. > > -- > Alexandre Jaquet > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Bradeen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:57 PM > Subject: Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? > > > > Yep, Becky is right ... you are not alone. I am two years older than you > > Rick, and I just got into software development 4 1/2 years ago. I came > > from a mechanical design background (with a BS in Civil Engineering). I > > get great support from my fellow developers here, but more often than not > > I feel very much behind the 8-ball. > > > > Susan Bradeen > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > On 03/31/2003 08:03:22 AM Becky Norum wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 23:44, Rick Reumann wrote: > > > > Does anyone else ever wake up going "Man, I feel overwhelmed. Too much > > > > too learn, not enough time." I started this computer stuff rather late > > > > in life and find it very difficult trying to pick out what to try > > > > concentrate my learning in. Bottom line is I have to put food on the > > > > table for the family so I have to concentrate in skill sets that are > > > > valuable (and not just fun:). I started this computer stuff rather > > late > > > > in life (4 years ago and I'm 33 now) and constantly wonder "What > > should > > > > I concentrate on learning next?" When you spend too much time learning > > > > one area you fall behind in another. That's what I find so amazing > > about > > > > some of these job applications- is they put down tons of skill sets > > and, > > > > sure there might be a few that truly 'know' all of the skill sets > > > > listed, but rarely have I come across that many people that can > > honestly > > > > say they are proficient in all of them. Then it's also the Catch-22 of > > > > if you diverse too much you end up being "ok" at a lot of stuff but > > not > > > > really "good" at any one skill. It seems like in this market it's best > > > > to just concentrate on being very good at a few skill sets vs trying > > to > > > > learn everything, but I could be totally wrong there. All and all it's > > > > just very frustrating:) Ehhh I'm just venting... just ignore me. Wish > > I > > > > could just start over and be a farmer in some little rural ho-dunk > > town > > > > where my greatest concerns would be whether God was going to provide > > > > enough rain for the crops. > > > > > > Rick, > > > > > > I often feel the way you do. I didn't get into programming until I was > > > 24. (28 now..). Although I don't have children of my own, I also > > > greatly value my time with my nephew, family and friends, and won't give > > > that up to cram more knowledge into my head. It's also important to me > > > to spend time exercising and pursuing non-computer hobbies. > > > > > > I've accepted that I can't compete with the 16-year old hacker who lives > > > for his/her computer. Heck, my little (23-yo) brother has started being > > > the one I ask about many things, not the other way around. ;) > > > > > > You've got to keep your strengths in mind in order to stay positive. > > > What were you doing those years before you started working with > > > computers? I studied Biochemistry and worked a diverse range of jobs. > > > What are your interests outside of computers? If you end up doing > > > consulting, relating to clients is very important. > > > > > > A close friend of mine a year older than you works as a specialized O/S > > > customer support professional. She started programming, etc. when she > > > was 29. She took a position that allows her to use her technical degree > > > yet emphasizes her "people" skills. Consistently, she receives very > > > positive feedback from Fortune 500 companies, feedback that some of her > > > more "techie" coworkers do not, because they don't share her ability to > > > talk to individuals less technically savvy than themselves. > > > > > > I guess all I'm saying is that you're not alone, and don't get > > > discouraged. I can speak only for myself, but I have a lot of those > > > moments. =) > > > > > > -- > > > Becky Norum > > > Database Administrator > > > Center for Subsurface Sensing and Imaging Systems (CenSSIS) > > > Northeastern University > > > http://www.censsis.neu.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
