--- Mark Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I started using JSTL but found that it encouraged site builders to > start embedding logic in JSP's. While I can see that JSLT is more > powerful, isn't it true to say that it encourages breaking with the > view-controller demarcation?
No, it doesn't encourage poor programming. Anyone can abuse the tags but it's up to your designers to use them for view logic. If you provide beans that perform the business logic, the page designers will have no reason to implement that logic in the view. > > I find the struts tags on the other hand, used with zero scriptlet > tolerance, forces you to do all the work in your action servlets. > > I'm open to views against mine, and I also wouldn't dismiss the advise > of the folks who developed struts, but whenever I read "use JSLT" it > seems to me a step backwards. It's a huge step *forwards* from the Struts tags. The JSTL is far more powerful and easier to use. Plus, it's a standard so every Java web developer is expected to know it. David > > On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 03:05 PM, Hookom, Jacob wrote: > > > > > Start using it and you will :-). The expression language is the best > > thing since sliced bread. > > > > David > > I agree, I'm even using the EL parser to do stuff on completely > > different > > layers for scripting logic. Also, you can VERY easily use JSTL's > > parsing > > objects in your own tags to make them a little more flexible. > > Jacob > > > >> > >> - Keith > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:51 AM > >> To: Struts Users Mailing List > >> Subject: RE: Using JSTL tags instead of Struts tags > >> > >> > >> I don't have any documentation but the only Struts taglibs I use are > >> html > >> and tiles. I replaced my usage of the bean tags with the > >> <fmt:message> > >> tag and the Struts logic tags are all replaced with a combination of > >> the > >> <c:if> and <c:forEach> tags plus the expression language. > >> > >> The JSPs are remarkably easy to maintain and debug using this > strategy > >> because there aren't any scriptlets or complicated business logic in > >> them. > >> > >> David > >> > >> --- "Kamholz, Keith (corp-staff) USX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> I'd be interested in finding out about this too. > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: White, Joshua A (HTSC, CASD) > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 7:30 AM > >>> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > >>> Subject: Using JSTL tags instead of Struts tags > >>> > >>> > >>> A previous thread had encouraged me to look into JSTL. It looks > like > >>> there > >>> are several tags which I could use instead of Struts tags. 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