David Graham wrote:
--- Mark Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:PLUS... They are WAY WAY SHORTER syntactically... as an aesthetics freak (also a designer), I prefer the JSTL syntax.
I started using JSTL but found that it encouraged site builders to start embedding logic in JSP's. While I can see that JSLT is more powerful, isn't it true to say that it encourages breaking with the view-controller demarcation?
No, it doesn't encourage poor programming. Anyone can abuse the tags but it's up to your designers to use them for view logic. If you provide beans that perform the business logic, the page designers will have no reason to implement that logic in the view.
I find the struts tags on the other hand, used with zero scriptlet tolerance, forces you to do all the work in your action servlets.
I'm open to views against mine, and I also wouldn't dismiss the advise of the folks who developed struts, but whenever I read "use JSLT" it seems to me a step backwards.
It's a huge step *forwards* from the Struts tags. The JSTL is far more powerful and easier to use. Plus, it's a standard so every Java web developer is expected to know it.
David
On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 03:05 PM, Hookom, Jacob wrote:
strategyStart using it and you will :-). The expression language is the best thing since sliced bread.
David
I agree, I'm even using the EL parser to do stuff on completely different
layers for scripting logic. Also, you can VERY easily use JSTL's parsing
objects in your own tags to make them a little more flexible.
Jacob
- Keith
-----Original Message----- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:51 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Using JSTL tags instead of Struts tags
I don't have any documentation but the only Struts taglibs I use are
html
and tiles. I replaced my usage of the bean tags with the <fmt:message>
tag and the Struts logic tags are all replaced with a combination of the
<c:if> and <c:forEach> tags plus the expression language.
The JSPs are remarkably easy to maintain and debug using this
likebecause there aren't any scriptlets or complicated business logic in them.
David
--- "Kamholz, Keith (corp-staff) USX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'd be interested in finding out about this too.[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-----Original Message-----
From: White, Joshua A (HTSC, CASD)
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 7:30 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: Using JSTL tags instead of Struts tags
A previous thread had encouraged me to look into JSTL. It looks
copying,there
are several tags which I could use instead of Struts tags. Has anyone
come
across any documentation about experiences doing this (benefits,
drawbacks,
caveats)? Anyone care to share their experience?
Joshua
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