Hi Anuj,

While I think that changes can be made to the UI of Sugar/Sugarizer, there
are processes they should follow and ideas behind why
these processes exist, the design team
<https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team> page on the wiki contains
really helpful information.

The document you've shared contains changes to the UI but doesn't explain
the reason behind those changes besides
"they look better" and design decisions aren't just based on something
looking better.

There's also the issue of completing the UI change and maintenance,
maintenance is a really huge part of changes to software
and if someone comes and says we should change something, from previous
experience they usually just suggest that change and
aren't ready to maintain it so leaving more work to the existing
maintainers if the change is made.

You've done some research like you've mentioned but the document you shared
doesn't show the research you've done but just
UI changes, it'll be helpful to point us to it.

Hope this helps.


Ibiam Chihurumnaya

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 12:05 PM MR. OPTIMIST <panuj7...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Alex Sir,
>                         Your response to email is very much appreciated.
> Sorry for the late reply.
> I love to mention that I have used sugarizer for many days and I also know
> that its UI has been designed with the vision that it's gonna be used by
> childrens. My point is that sugarizer was developed back in 2013 and the
> internet revolution at the time was very less in comparison to 2023. The UI
> and Ux terms were not that considerable at that time and everyone didn't
> had access to the mobile phones and internet, But as of now in 2023 the
> childrens from 1 or even less than that start using technical devices and
> the UX is what first thing that they interact with like games and other
> applications.So the UI of sugarizer is not matching with the need of
> today's generation which reduces the user interest (research) to use the
> platform. So my point is we can work to enhance its UI to meet today's need
> and increase the interaction time of the users of our product.
> Considering my skills, I'm a second year engineering student and a self
> learner, I have done multiple projects on AI based applications and
> developed 2 websites as of now. To authenticate my words hereby i have
> listed all my projects in my github account and link of my github account
> is:-
> https://www.github/Anujverma89
> Considering what part of the product and UI can be modified to give new
> user experience, I have done research and explained it in the given pdf you
> can view it thoroughly.
> Here is the link :-
> Click me to open !!
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OwG09QhO8nHJqQmccXhI2sKYx5LnEGaEVoW5rv5BN5Q/edit?usp=sharing>
> Your suggestions on changeable topics(UI) will be highly appreciated !!
> Thank You..
> On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 12:18 AM Alex Perez <ape...@alexperez.com> wrote:
>> Anuj,
>> I appreciate your enthusiasm, and welcome. Before any UI re-design would
>> be considered, we would require detailed written analysis of what the goals
>> are for such a re-design, what's "wrong" with the current design, and what
>> your qualifications are for making what are largely subjective changes.
>> While everyone has opinions on UI design, engineers are often infamous for
>> designing awful user interfaces. Please share with us what sorts
>> qualifications you possess that would qualify you to make UI design changes
>> to Sugar/Sugarizer.
>> Have you ever used Sugar for more than a few hours, or a day? If so,
>> which elements do you feel should be changed? If you have not used Sugar
>> extensively, I would argue that you likely lack sufficient experience to
>> propose such changes.
>> The Sugar/Sugarizer UI was primarily designed for children of a specific
>> age range. Almost all design decisions stem from that basic premise. Have
>> you considered this?
>> Regards,
>> Alex Perez
>> MR. OPTIMIST wrote on 3/10/23 10:24 AM:
>> Hello everyone !
>>                  I am Anuj Verma from Maharashtra, India majoring in
>> computer science and engineering.  I have worked in multiple projects and
>> web applications including AI projects.
>> I have checked the sugarizer, it's pretty good but I believe it's UI can
>> be improved. Like we
>> can add links to words as well as icons, we can improve icons as well
>> which is less user friendly(in my opinion).I have experience of working
>> with many projects but have not worked on open source yet. I'm writing to
>> seek further comments and be open to constructive feedback and criticism.
>> Your response to this mail will be highly appreciated.
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