Hello all,
I have found very interesting the note of Anselmo Perez Serrada concerning
the sunset seen through the Arc de Triompe in Paris and the images
communicated by Jean-Paul Cornec and particularly #3
(http://acdsweb.free.fr/evenements/rayon_vert/diapo/vue16.html) and #1
(http://www.astrosurf.com/poisaya/astro/planetaire/08triomphesoleil.htm).

To find the characteristics of the phenomenon I have tried to make some
"gnomonic"  calculations .

Knowing the Latitude, the Longitude, the day and the dimensions of the Arc
de Triompe, I have found that in the instant in which the photo #3 was taken
the Sun had an Azimuth = 117.7 degrees, its center had an altitude slightly
inferior of 45'  and the hour was  21h 12m 30s (in France in May it is in
force the saving time).

The photographer was at a distance of around 1210m from the front of the
arc.

The photo #1 probably was taken on  May 10; in it the Sun has an altitude of
around 22-23' and the inferior edge is at  only 7'   above the horizon;
the distance of the photographer is slightly superior (around 1230m).



This value of the azimuth is obviously also the azimuth of the avenue of the
Champs Elysee if the photographer was exactly on the centre line of the
avenue.

Since the width of the Champs is very great (around 60 m) the photographer
could be moved from the centre line of 20m or more : for this reason  the
value of the Azimuth of the avenue could differ from the  Sun's Azimuth also
for  ±1°.

Knowing the Azimuth of the avenue is easy to find the instants in which the
phenomenon will be repeated and its characteristics.

Taking the value of 117.7° and supposing to be at  around 1200m from the
arc, we find that in  2003 the phenomenon will be visible on the following
days :

5/10/2003 s             21h 14m     a = 18 '   the sun has the lower limb
almost on  the horizon

5/11/2003 S             21h 13m     a = 35 '   the sun is centered in the
arc

5/12/2003 m             21h 12m     a = 51 '   the sun touches the superior
edge of the arc

7/31/2003 t             21h 22m     a = 54 '

8/01/2003 f             21h 23m     a = 37 '

8/02/2003 s             20h 24m     a = 21 '

8/03/2003 S             21h 25m     a = 4.5 ' the sun is already partly set

Obviously if the photographer comes near the arc, the apparent diameter of
the arc itself becomes greater then the  Sun and the phenomenon can be seen
probably also in other days.

For example  going at the distance of around 750m the width of the arc is
double of the Sun's  diameter.

The maximum distance to see the whole Sun's disk is 1500m  .

If the azimuth of the avenue is slightly different we can have  changes of
some minutes: in a minute the Sun' center  moves of around 11.3' in Azimuth
and  -7.5' in altitude.



The phenomenon would be visible in the Champs Elysee even if the Azimuth of
the avenue had a value between 53° and 127°: these numbers well explain the
reason for which  this  phenomenon has to be very common, as also Anselmo
writes .

For example for a place with Latitude = 40° we can the Sun set exactly on
the center line of a street, or of other alignment,  if this has an Azimuth
between 59° and 122°  .



I hope that Mike Shaw find a cloudless weather and  send us a photo and the
data of the event , when he will go in  Paris next spring  :-)

 Best regards,

Gianni Ferrari

44° 39' N      10° 55' E
Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED]








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