Hi Tony:

That's great information to know. I have a feeling the bolting method
through glass or the metal structure would be better than the "car mirror"
method.

I wonder what method the glassers use to drill glass?  I'll have to ask
them.  But, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm going to try to drill a hole the
same way I drill holes in stone using a high speed diamond sphere with H2O.
But I have no intension of make stained glass sundial windows myself. But I
might try some stone inlays someday.


John L. Carmichael Jr.
Sundial Sculptures
925 E. Foothills Dr.
Tucson Arizona 85718
USA

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Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: SGS Gnomon Attachment


> John Carmichael asked:
> >
> >What do you think is the best method to attach a metal rod gnomon to a
> >stained glass sundial window?
> >
> >It's the most frequent question I've been getting from the "Glassers". I
> >do have an article that Mike Cowham sent me that mentions that in the
> >seventeenth century, a threaded gnomon was usually bolted to a hole cut
in
> >the glass.  Of course that resulted in a lot of cracked glass and missing
> >gnomons, especially if the glass was thin.
> >
> I've no practical experience of attaching gnomons to glass but would like
> to experiment with:
>
> 1.  modern adhesives to attach a gnomon with a small baseplate.  If it
> drops off after twenty years just clean it up and re-attach. The glues
> used to stick interior mirrors on car windscreens would be a useful
> beginning perhaps?
>
> 2.  attaching through a drilled hole with e.g. a 20mm brass disc on each
> side of the glass and soft vinyl washers in a sort of 'sandwich' squeezed
> gently tight with a nut on the inside.  The gnomon could be silver
> soldered to the outer disc before assembly.  Twin bolts would prevent
> rotation.
>
> A very safe way to 'drill' glass is to use a short piece of thick-walled
> copper tube of e.g. 6mm outer diameter with a few radial sawcuts in an
> electric drill.
> Garages are a good source of the right stuff.
>
> Place the glass flat on a firm/soft supporting surface, e.g. cork, and
> build a tiny 'dam' around the intended hole site with Plasticene.  Mix a
> little turpentine with carborundum powder, place a few drops within the
> dam and you can abrade a neat clean hole in no time but reduce the
> pressure at breakthrough or the hole edges may flake.  A thin piece of
> wood with a 6mm hole will guide the tube until it begins cutting after
> which it is just gently lifted and replaced to refresh the abrasive.
>
> Have fun
>
> Tony Moss
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