Hi Chris,

Really Cool Chris!  So all those houswives have been correct enough all this 
time!  Thanks!

Edley.
 
> This has been an excellent discussion. As several of my designs
> purport to be readable to a couple of minutes, I, too, had been
> exploring ways to correct for the EoT. 
> 
> The Poncet platform rotates the entire sundial about a polar axis, but
> has to be made for a specific latitude, so cannot be mass-produced. A
> latitude-independent version is described in US patent 09874026 filed
> just last year (see http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7035005-
> description.html)Patrick is correct in saying that if the gnomon has
> two edges you must rotate it, not just the dial, as the orientation of
> the edges would remain correct, but their position in space would not.
> 
> 
> An alternative that I've investigated is to usetwo wedges, similar to
> those Bill Gottesman uses for the latitude adjustment of his sundials
> (also patented: see
> http://www.precisionsundials.com/equant%20dial.htm). The wedge angle
> can be vey small -just 2 degrees. But having to set three alignments
> seems an unacceptable burden. 
> 
> My latest approach is to take the "Housewife's Trick" from AP Herbert:
> just turn the whole horizontal sundial about a vertical axis, so the
> dial plate remains horizontal but the gnomon and the 12 o'clock line
> are no longer North-South. This is very much easier to do than any of
> the other suggestions. But, is it accurate? 
> 
> Of course not - an article in The Compendium a few years ago analysed
> it and rejected it. But The Compendium is written with a USA
> perspective. AP Herbert was English. The housewives to whom he
> referred were at 51 or more degrees North. Does this make a
> difference? 
> 
> Yes, it does. By rotating the sundial appropriately, the maximum time
> error can be made to be less than one minute except in July when it
> may be as much as 90 seconds. Well, for my money that's a pretty good
> result. I'm sorry it doesn't work as well in the USA because you're
> too near the equator. For us in northern Europe I suggest it is quite
> good enough. The further north you are, the less the error. Should I
> patent it, or at leastthe calculation of the "appropriate" angle? I
> think I'm too late. It appears that it's common knowledge amongst
> housewives in this country. 
> 
> Chris Lusby Taylor 
> 51.4N 1.3W 
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: Edley McKnight 
>     To: Roger Sinnott ; [email protected] 
>     Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 6:59 AM 
>     Subject: RE: Equation of Time 
>     Hi Folks, just a short note on hinging in latitude/EOT
>     corrections. 
> 
>     I tend to think of the hinge as one side of a parallelogram with
>     the gnomon as the opposite side. The parallelogram extending down
>     through the dial plate and base. When any set of parallel lines is
>     rotated around one of them, they still stay parallel, further, if
>     only a subset of these lines is rotated, all of them are still
>     parallel. So, really, the hinge could be just below an edge of the
>     dial plate if the dial plate is allowed to swing to positive and
>     negative angles. So long as the hinge is parallel to the gnomon. A
>     half circle with a screw clamp or any number of other ways could
>     be used to set the angle/time. I hope this makes sense. It is all
>     equivalent to translating the dial in Longitude( rotating around
>     the earth's axis as a hinge). 
> 
>     Enjoy the Light! 
> 
>     Edley. 
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