Hi Dan,

Sorry for the delay in replying.

>From a PRACTICAL point-of-view,  as we all know, analogue watches replaced 
>sundials, digital watches replaced analogue watches, and smart phones have 
>replaced watches. Digital compasses replaced analogue compasses, and now smart 
>phones have replaced compasses. I confess to having a mobile phone, and no 
>longer wearing a watch. Also when I go bushwalking, now I carry a GPS with 
>real-time tracking on appropriate-scale topographic maps. I still have a 
>digital compass, but it was pretty fiddly to use, so it now sits somewhere at 
>home. I only use a magnetic compass when doing serious field work, and I need 
>to know the orientation of some feature I am measuring.

But what has practicality to do with anything related to sundials????

Several years ago I was also intrigued about the accuracy of using a watch as a 
compass, and I decided to investigate it the empirical way. So I made up a 
little “tool” and every weekend when I went bushwalking, I would set it up and 
compare compass north with watch north at regular intervals.

I ended up with quite a few measurements before life got in the way of plans, 
and the project petered out. I still have the results but I have never analysed 
them. In part because even then it was obvious to me that the question could be 
investigated using standard equations. But my feeling at the time was that the 
whole watch / north method was getting close to an urban myth. I had collected 
several variations on instructions, but I seem to have lost them in one of my 
several moves. But I do remember that depending on which you used, the error 
could be 30o or more.  None of the methods said anything about the difference 
between true and magnetic north, but that may be irrelevant anyway unless you 
are somewhere like Antarctica where the difference can be 70o. More important 
would be DST which could be a major trap for the unwary.

At one stage the watch / north method was called the “Boy Scout”method. During 
my travels on public transport when kids are going to school, I haven’t seen 
too many wearing analogue watches. Or watches of any form. They are completely 
welded to their smart phones, so it’s pretty obvious that the method has gone 
the way of sundials. 

When you find the analysis of the watch / north idea, can you post it on the 
List please?

Cheers, John

John Pickard
[email protected] 



From: Dan-George Uza 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 4:57 AM
To: Sundial List 
Subject: Accuracy of wristwatch as compass

Hello!

I'm sure you know the method of pointing the analogue wristwach hour hand 
towards the Sun and then bisecting the angle to 12 o'clock in order to find 
south (or north, if you live down in the south). Actually I guess what you 
should be doing is bisect the angle to your noon time and not necessarily 12 
o'clock, but anyway. A few years ago I read an interesting seasonal accuracy 
analysis of this method. I also vaguely remember the demonstration involved 
Vitruvius' analemma and I'm pretty sure it was all in a book. Thing is - I 
can't remember where! Can you help? 

Dan Uza


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