Michael,


On 2018-10-24 8:25 p.m., Michael Ossipoff wrote:
A Shephard’s Dial wouldn’t help as a sun-compass. It just gives time if you know the date, or date if you know the time.

By writing "a Shepard's Dial marked out as a solar compass" I meant that one for which the lines drawn on the cylinder are the azimuth corresponding to altitude instead of the usual option of the hour corresponding to altitude.  So, yes, a sun compass.


Sure, an Altitude-Dial is at its least accurate near noon, but this AW method, and the TA that it’s based on, are different. The error is 0 at noon, if you’re using the right EoT and longitude. The altitude (ideally along with the declination) adjusts h, to get the azimuth from south.

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The error is max sometime during mid-afternoon because, because it’s 0 at noon, and because, when the sun is low near sunset,h is multiplied by a only a factor, closer to 1, because cos dec * sec Alt is closer to 1 then.

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AW’s error comes from the fact that it substitutes h and Azimuth for their sines. When the factor by which sin h is multiplied is closer to 1, the error from that substitution is smaller.

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So AW has its greatest error around mid-afternoon, between noon when it’s 0, and near sunset when it’s error is low due to that multiplicative factor being closer to 1.

OK, I see what you're saying now. I was coming at it just by imagining how hard it must be to get an accurate altitude measurement - perhaps a few degrees out. My thinking was that around noon the azimuth changes a lot from a small change in altitude so any measurement error would be multiplied considerably, whereas later or earlier in the day the same small change in altitude would correspond to a smaller change of azimuth.

Cheers,

Steve



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