On Jul 27, 2005 at 20:41 -0700, Craig Bender wrote: =>That's awesome! =>I hear you on the softclient. I'm in your camp. I always try. Two questions =>though (being serious here): =>Would pay for a soft client?
I would like to see the SunRay server software and JDS (which I believe includes StarOffice) included in a Java Enterprise System "Desktop" Suite which would then of course have the "SoftRay" too. See <http://www.sun.com/software/javaenterprisesystem/compare.xml> for the other JES suites and what they contain. To me that would dove-tail nicely with the Messaging Suite (Evolution as the "fat" mail and calendar client). =>If Sun Ray changed it's licensing that it was per connection (i.e. like =>Citrix), how would you feel about that? We have licensed the full JES suite if that tells you anything. (I know edu pricing and licensing is different than the corporate or ISP world, but it is SO much nicer than having to worry about installing a license manager and related overhead. So, I could agree in a license model like JES or like Solstice Enterprise Backup Server where you license the server and then buy client pack of 5/25/100 clients connections. These client connections would ONLY be for the SoftRay as the "license" fee for a SunRay was/is baked into the hardware cost. (I know that including the "license" cost in the hardware is not the best "recurring income" model, but it is with the paradigm that I believe that the SunRay was designed under....'reduces the maintenance, upgrading, and operational costs associated with most "fat" PC client environments'.) One comment that has not been made about the "SoftRay" that would be neat IMO is that to make it available on a "LiveCD". That way you don't have to worry about the resident OS on the machines hard drive. From this CD you could install the software onto a small partition if you did not want to boot from CD. Having this LiveCD would help some road warriors, but it would not secure the hardware from keyloggers, etc, so it is not the holy grail for them either. A laptop with an OS installed when they are away from a network connection and the SoftRay when they have network connectivity is probably the best road warrior solution. :) -- ********************************************************************* Derek Diget Office of Information Technology Western Michigan University - Kalamazoo Michigan USA - www.wmich.edu/ ********************************************************************* _______________________________________________ SunRay-Users mailing list [email protected] http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
