Please explain how an Xterminal and a Sun Ray are basically the same thing. RAM, video card, processor, etc all effected how well a Xterminal performed.

I think this thread getting a bit of the old he said/she said (although we seem to be lacking the she's)

IIRC most dumb terminals required quite a bit more config than the Sun Ray ever did. Baud/Parity/Data, RS232, Current loop etc. You can't config a Sun Ray locally.

I used to deploy Wyse winterms. None of them would be useable today. In fact I'm doing a install that's replacing two year old televideo windows based terminals because they got too slow for the customers new application. They also all got infected by viruses. If they don't go with Sun Rays they are going to go with a WinCE based thin client and throw them away every two years instead of investing in a management system to upgrade them since they've been burned in the past by units that won't upgrade to the latest embedded OS (didn't meet the HW requirements).

You might buy a new Sun Ray because you want a serial port or DVI, but that's about it. To increase performance, you upgrade your server. No matter how much horsepower you through at a Terminal server, it doesn't make a slow rendering windows based terminal any faster. I'm sure in the future you might something that takes advantage of the newer processor in the Sun Ray and you'll have to upgrade if you want that feature. But our guiding principle has always been to make it future proof.

15 years? Who knows. I'd probably say not given the 3D desktops that are rage and that the next version of RDP will have WinFX extenstions. Of course you'll need a windows vista OS to have those extensions work. But there will always be markets who want simplicity and security and that's something that no other thin client can do as well as Sun Ray.





Blaster wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:sunray-users-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Callison
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 8:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] Why SunRay?

Perhaps I am not making my point in an effective way.

You made your point just fine.  You just don't seem to get that I think it's
wrong.  Your statements, as far as I'm concerned, prove my point, not yours
:)

The average PC lasts about 3-5 years in the business world.  Larger/richer
companies at 3, smaller poorer companies at 5.  To say the Sun Ray
terminals, or any Thin/Dumb client in their current generation is going to
still be suitably useful in 3-5 times that period is, lets just say, a very
courageous thing to say.

I wouldn't even hazard a guess as to whether or not 100Mb Ethernet will
still even be useful 15 years from now.  Yes, I know 10MB has been around
longer than that, and is still here today, but amazing technological
advances can happen over night making today's "long lived" technology
useless long before it's maker intended.

Thin/Dumb clients have been around almost since the day computers where
first powered on...But we certainly still are not using the same methods
that we used 15 years ago.

Where are NCD Xterminals today?  Basically the same thing as a Sun Ray, yet
I haven't seen one in use since I graduated University in the early 90s, 15
years ago.....




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