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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:sunray-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Bender
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:27 PM
> To: SunRay-Users mailing list
> Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] Why SunRay?
> 
> Please explain how an Xterminal and a Sun Ray are basically the same
> thing.  RAM, video card, processor, etc all effected how well a
> Xterminal performed.

Please explain how they are different!  The Sun Ray is simply a new
generation of an old concept, which some day too, will be replaced.  

IMHO, A Sun Ray and an Xterm are more similar than they are different.

> I think this thread getting a bit of the old he said/she said (although
> we seem to be lacking the she's)

My basic point was that it's false advertising to claim Sun Rays never need
upgrading.  Perhaps that's technically true, since there is nothing in them
to upgrade, but they WILL be obsolete, requiring a replacement, or in other
words, an upgrade.
 
> IIRC most dumb terminals required quite a bit more config than the Sun
> Ray ever did.  Baud/Parity/Data, RS232, Current loop etc.  You can't
> config a Sun Ray locally.

So configuring a Solaris DHCP server is an easy thing?  I think not!  Sure,
you only have to do it in one spot, but configuring the RS232 parameters is
simple compared to having to deal with Solaris' DHCP server, which can't
even handle a macro over 255 characters!  Why the limitation and short
sightedness by it's designers?

> You might buy a new Sun Ray because you want a serial port or DVI, but
> that's about it.  To increase performance, you upgrade your server. 

I would say that is a misleading statement as well.  Are you going to tell
me if I have a 10Ghz Opteron I'm going to notice the difference in
performance on a Sun Ray?  Hog wash!  You will hit the limiting factors of
the 100Mb Ethernet or slow display chips inside the Sun Ray long before
that.  I noticed a great performance boost going from 400Mhz Sparcs to
1.5Ghz Sparcs, but I'm willing to bet I'm not going to notice the same
performance perception going from 1.5 Ghz to 6Ghz Sparcs when they are
available.  There are limitations to the Sun Ray design, for Sun to imply
they will never be obsolete or never need upgrading, or to make them faster
by upgrading the server is simply misleading if not outright wrong!

I also find it interesting that this list lets dozens of Sun Ray technical
questions go unanswered, but start poking holes in Sun's marketing and all
the evangelists come out of the woodwork.

I guess we know what's important to people.




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