I agree that the feature is much needed for certain environments. I can also see how it can lessen the security of the devices. This is a tough one because I need that pop-up option in my environment.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Partington, David R Mr (NGIT) USAIC&FH Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 1:36 PM To: SunRay-Users mailing list Subject: RE: [SunRay-Users] Sun Ray Server 4 Update 2 Open Beta Importance: High Ivar, The Pop-up gui has been enabled in Tadpole Laptops since they came out. We have 45 Tadpoles in a classroom enviroment and I don't know of any student that has ever discovered the feature. I applaud Sun for making this capability available. The benefits far exceed the risk. There are many ways to control firmware delivery to DTU's. Also if you read the Admin guide. You can remotely load all the configuration data. Below is a snippet from the Admin and Installation Guide. Looks like Sun did their homework. To help avoid error-prone manual entry of configuration data for deployments where pre-configuration is required, you can use the Pop-up GUI to download a configuration to a Sun Ray DTU from a file on a server via TFTP, as indicated in FIGURE 7-7. The following keywords correspond to configuration values that can be set from Pop-up GUI menus (see "Pop-up GUI" on page 113). To group items that are logically related, some of the keywords take the form <family>.<field>. TABLE 7-4 Pop-up GUI Menu Configuration Values VPN/IPsec Submenu vpn.enabled enable toggle vpn.peer remote gateway name/IP address vpn.group VPN group vpn.key VPN key vpn.user Xauth user vpn.passwd Xauth password vpn.pin PIN lock for use of user/passwd vpn.dhgroup Diffie-Hellman group to use vpn.lifetime Lifetime of IKE connection Dave -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ivar Janmaat Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:30 AM To: SunRay-Users mailing list Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] Sun Ray Server 4 Update 2 Open Beta I would like to advise any educational institution on this list to have a close look at this new Pop-up GUI "feature". In my opinion it is a very bad "feature" for "hostile" environments like kiosk locations, classrooms and libraries. Since I believe most Sun Rays are placed in this kind of environments I would advice all of you to inform Sun about how this would effect your upgrade cost. I was told by Sun that you have to visit every SunRay to set the password on this Pop-up GUI or leave the configuration unlocked. I think this will dramatically increase the cost of upgrading or administration...... Please inform Sun about your thoughts on this. Ivar Bob Doolittle wrote: > Kurt Schreiner wrote: > >> Wow! What a security "feature"! If this will be the same in the >> released version I'll have to stay with older SRSS and firmware as >> long as possible and plan on migrating my SunRays ASAP to PCs or some >> other ThinClients, but ones which have no <Please change my >> configuration> "feature". >> I really can't understand why anyone would render SunRays useless >> with such a silly "feature"! > > > Like OttoM said yesterday, just complaining to this list about it does > little good. Complaining to the beta aliases would be much more > likely to have the effect you want - of changing this behavior before > the product is officially released. > > -Bob > > Disclaimer: opinions expressed here are my own, not my employer's > _______________________________________________ > SunRay-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://node1.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users > > _______________________________________________ SunRay-Users mailing list [email protected] http://node1.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users _______________________________________________ SunRay-Users mailing list [email protected] http://node1.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users _______________________________________________ SunRay-Users mailing list [email protected] http://node1.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
