At 18:03 -0400 04/10/2002, Nancy Haitz wrote:

>I always though this was an old world machine issue.  (Machines without
>upgradable firmware.)  It was my understanding that if "left up to the
>machine," they had a boot sequence that looked for a bootable system
>folder: first on a floppy disk, then numerically through the SCSI chain.
>
>That IDE, USB and FireWire were totally ignored by the machine, since
>they came along later.  And, only IDE (and other control-type) cards
>with built in firmware entered into the startup process via that
>firmware.
>
>Would this then be a firmware, or lack thereof issue, or am I just way
>off base in my understanding?

The sentences in your description are each correct, but the overall 
message seems to me to miss the point, but it's probably a matter of 
interpretation.

The problem under discussion occurs on machines with SCSI cards and 
IDE cards that do have onboard firmware and which are bootable.  USB 
cards and Firewire cards are not even a part of the topic so far.

When this problem occurs, the Start Up CP just doesn't work at all. 
The problem may be related to a SCSI card that is creating a SCSI Bus 
2 and Bus 3, for example.  But when the problem rears its head, if 
you assign a volume on SCSI Bus 1 (a built-in bus on the S900/J700 
and x500 family) it will still be ignored if there is a bootable 
volume earlier in the search sequence.

The problem is very simple to describe.  The Start UP CP settings are 
ignored and the first bootable volume found using the default search 
(as you described end of 1st paragraph) is used by the computer. 
That's all there is to it.

The cause is unknown but seems to relate to or correspond to the 
installation of some SCSI and IDE cards.  But it's not that simple. 
Because it rarely occurs and sometimes it goes away for no *apparent* 
reason.  It's probably somehow related to Open Firmware, but we just 
don't know.

Jeff Walther

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