> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:18:50 -0800
>
> From: "David R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Okay, here's another interesting one for ya Will.
>
> I have two Seagate IDE drives, one 4.3 gb Model ST34311A which is a few
> years old and a newly acquired 60 GB Model ST360020A 5400 rpm.
>
> The interesting thing is, while both of these have been formatted with 
> Drive
> Setup and drivers updated, neither will show the driver version in the 
> ASP.

Ok, I booted into OS 9.1 an opened ASP. I have 3 hard drives hooked to 
my Sonnet/ACARD ATA pci controller. 2 are Quantum and 1 is a Seagate. 
None of them show driver version in ASP they all 3 say n/a for not 
available. One is using Intech's Hard drive speedtools the other 2 
Apple's Drive setup. Now if I do a get info the driver is shown 
correctly. ASP is not the best tool. It often shows different info in 
different Mac OS's and in Jaguar it crashes and shows no info since 
10.2.2 upgrade and wasn't fixed in 10.2.3 despite many people 
complaining about this issue.
> When I check the driver version on a Quantum 15 on the other ide bus, 
> it
> shows it just fine.  I was kinda hoping this wouldn't be the case 
> because it
> might have shed some light on the problem I am having with the DVD/RAM 
> drive
> showing up as a locked drive.  No such luck.

Locked CDRW and DVDRW drives must be a known issue because the 
wonderful UNIX CDRW and DVD burning software "CDRDAO" includes a button 
to unlock the drive. This software is available as part of the full 
package for Windozes called "VCDEasy" and "Missing CD burning tools" 
for Mac OSX. Also available for LINUX. In fact Mac OS 8/9 are pretty 
much the only OS's for which it isn't available which is really too bad 
as I love it and started using in Win 98 but since it is available for 
OSX use it there. In fact Video in OSX has enough apps I no longer need 
to use Windozes anymore at all! Even though a couple of Windozes apps 
are still faster/better then the OSX versions. I mention CDRDAO because 
if you had or knew someone with a PC or OSX you could maybe hook your 
DVD drive up and unlock it using one of these apps. I don't know of any 
MAC OS 9 app that has this feature . There are several Mac CD burning 
apps I haven't used much nor in a long time  that could I suppose have 
this feature(toast doesn't have it)
> On this 60 gb drive, I should note that it also freezes my machine up 
> when I
> run a surface or media scan.  I've increased the memory sufficiently 
> to the
> apps.  If there is something wrong with the drive, I will need to ship 
> it
> back.

What app are you using to run a surface/media scan Techtool if I 
remember correctly? I have no idea why this would happen. I am no fan 
of Techtool and wonder if the version you have needs to be updated for 
the OS you are using it on? Norton isn't the app it once was but 
Speedtool and Disk DR can be ran with no problem if you use Disk 
Warrior first.Will S
> By chance does anybody know if these problems are indicative of 
> Seagates or
> a signal to a failing drive?  Why would a Surface or Media Scan freeze 
> up
> the utility apps and machine?  Is anybody else unable to see the driver
> version when you use ASP for your Seagate?
>
> Of course, thanks for any and all ideas.
>
> Dave
> s900, G3 450 XLR8 w/ OWC zif
>


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