From: Steve Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:10:27 -0700 (PDT)
--- Will S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If your using XPFacto 3.0 (I recommend using the > newest if your going > to use it.I think a16 is the latest) you can switch > Ryan's L2 cache > control software on and off in the XPFacto control > panel. No need to > use OS 9 to make a new configure file.
For now I'm not using Xpostfacto because I don't have Panther, just Jag. Maybe I should try Xpostfacto. Then I could switch to Panther when I get it.
>Very few > people seem to use > Ryan's current L2 software too buggy.The older > versions were fine. > As already mentioned I recommend Cache Contol X from > Powerlogix. Lots > of control shows what's on and off and lets you > change setting on the > fly for several things including L2 cache setting. > If you set it too > high it may crash your machine but will re-start > either with it off or > at a safe setting.
I'm running PowerLogic's CPU Director right now, which sounds as though it does the same things as cache Control X. Cache Control X (the version someone emailed me, anyway) claims in the Readme not to support 533 mHz and above processors, which is right where mine is running.
Cache Control X has a couple of extra features over CPU Director. It shows CPU temperature and also lets you turn off motherboard L2 cache for machines that have it soldiered on. Like the Umax S900/J700 and Apple 9600 machines other then the Mach version of the 9600 which has it in a socket. So you maybe fine with the Beige G3 and CPU Director. Speaking of which every machine is different and a lot of time can be saved and a correct answer more quickly arrived at if all details are given in the first post . I'm guessing you didn't want to admit it wasn't a Umax machine you were asking about...but then you are really wasting both our time ;-) since every machine is a bit different.
>Xbench is a free bench mark for
Apple sytem Profiler often gives wrong info and different info with different OS upgrades. This is sometimes caused by CPU upgrades that are of speeds not sold with the machine. So it gets confused when it gets a reading that doesn't make sense for the machine it's in.> OSX. I've not found > it real helpful as no context for the info. But > should help with > comparing Cache on and off settings.
I spoke with OWC tech support today, and they mentioned this. I've downloaded it, and my system seems to be slow in most categories compared to others using the what appears to be the same CPU in a 266 machine. It also says I have 1 meg cache, but nobody really knows how those numbers are generated in software and why Apple's System profiler disagrees with them when it should say the same thing.
I was hoping that nearly doubling the processor speed would have done more for the performance of the machine. Unfortunately, I didn't benchmark the thing prior to the change, so I can't make a good comparison without uninstalling everything. I bought one of these for one of my son's 266 as well. Hopefully he will run the tests before swapping CPUs.
You should be able to see a difference in just using the machine. Everything should be faster. Scrolling web surfing, windows opening etc. Bench marks don't really tell the story like just using the machine. I went from a 350 MHz to 550MHz and it is way easy to see that everything is faster. There are bench mark software available for OS 8/9 which gives results you can see much better then what is available for OS X. however it's getting old and not sure it would really work well with new fast upgrades.
> I switch back to OS 9 by holding down the option > key when re-starting > from OSX works every time on the Umax. So the normal > boot is always > OSX. best of luck Will S
How does it know which 9 to boot from if there's more than 1? I've got both 9.2 and at least one 9.1 ... maybe more. I had such a hard time booting to 9.1 (Ryan's software won't do the cache config numbers in Classic or 9.2) that I actually had to do another 9.1 install to make it work, and even then there was a time when it wouldn't boot in anything. I ended up taking all the cards and RAM out and going with as little as I could get away with to get it to go again, and then adding things back in slowly.
Thanks, everyone, for all the help so far. Steve
===== Steve Hardy
Well the booting into OS 9 may well show a difference in the Beige G3 and the other "Old World Macs" On a machine that you use XPFacto with you use XPFacto to boot into OSX. You set the "System startup" control panel in OS 9 to the OS 9 you want to be able to boot from. You never choice OSX in this control panel in OS 9 as you will get the "Black Screen of Death" So you must use this control panel to chose either OS 9 or X with the Beige G3. So that would explain the machine getting confused if you have more then one OS 9 on the machine. So you would likely have to choice the OS 9 in the OSX startup disk in the system preferences. But would likely have to do every time! perhaps XPFacto could be used to fix this issue. I don't know as I don't have a Beige G3. Perhaps the G3 list and or the PCI Powermac lowend mac list would be of more help. I know little about the G3 list. The PCI powermac list used to be more about flame wars then helping but perhaps that has changed. Best of luck Will S
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