Stefan wrote:
Rufus skriver:

Most of the things that annoyed me about the new default theme had to do
with it's cursor/click "hot" areas - there was/is a lot of area in the
taskbar where I felt I should have been able to right click
(cntrl+click) that were/are dead...so that was both non-intuitive and
difficult - particularly with my MacBook Pro trackpad.

The other thing was the lack of "grippie" function for the Sidebars -
lots of chat here about the Apple standard not allowing them the way
they were/are in the Modern theme...I think the best suggestion was to
just make the whole bar function as a grippie, vice just a small patch
around the "center dot".

These two issues alone drove me screaming to the Modern theme after
about a week...been far happier using that one.

Thunderbird doesn't have any grippies. What do you actually think is
better from a mac point of view in Thunderbird? Note that I'm not
arguing/challenging here - I'm just trying to understand what you think
is better in thunderbird from a mac pov.

Since TB isn't part of an integrated suite, I have little need to expand and collapse its Sidebar, so I don't need grippies when using it - I can open the TB window to the width of my screen, and that gives me enough space to operate for all of the Sidebar, message list, and preview panel. I think it's this that makes opening Mail/News in a tab in the same browser window such a space saver - I can use the whole of my Desktop; in addition, with Spaces under OS X I can simply assign the app to it's own space and have additional Desktop(s) space to work in.

With SM I have to leave enough room to be able to bring each individual window forward, so I spend more time snapping the Sidebar open/shut to create usable viewing area. I don't think I may have realized this if I hadn't used/seen it in Opera. Really handy.

But getting back to what you're asking...the immediate thing that comes to mind is that TB 3.0 "looks and feels like what I expect" on a Mac. But that's not really an answer...

There are a number of things I'd note about TB 3.0...first, it seems that no functions I'd been using previously disappeared in the "move forward". That's key - and goes a long way to "things being where I expected them to be". Tabs were added...and I like tabs. And they were added in a manner that fit the overall work flow of the presentation - that's "Mac-like". So it how easy it is to install - just drag and drop, nothing more required.

In TB 3 I can right-click in the Task Bar in any open space, and the contextual menu appears, unlike with the new Default SM theme. I don't particularly like TBs "cartoon" button as I always use "buttons+text", but the interface functions so well that I find myself overlooking that. All the buttons are easily targeted with my trackball or trackpad because they are of a usable size - unlike the "tiny buttons" in the current SM Download dialog.

Aesthetically, the TB 3.0 default theme is geometrically well balanced...which is another area in which the current SM 2.x Default falls flat, IMO. The SM theme has a "high forehead" on it as the window bar doesn't really sit well on top of its Task Bar - it looks like an add-on; and the Location bar isn't quite centered. And then there's that I don't like picture-buttons - but that's just me, and something I appear to overlook if the interface actually functions in a usable, accessible manner.

But my biggest issue with the new SM default Theme is still that there is far too much of the area where I should be able to right click that is non-responsive, or too cluttered/small to target which may be what is making it non-responsive. "It just doesn't work", and Apple users have developed a high expectation for things to "just work", and to work in an intuitive manner.

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     - Rufus
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