Stefan wrote:
Rufus skriver:
I was, and surprisingly so...I immediately liked the tabs, and
everything was where I would have expected it to be on a Mac. It also
didn't seem like I lost any functionality for what I do with TB like I
did with SM 2.x.x, and that was also of note.
It's funny that you mention the tabs, which I didn't changed when I did
the theme overhaul. Do you think most mac users prefer north-facing tabs?
...hmmnnn...never thought about it. I don't think it makes that much
difference to me personally. I know I really like tabs!
What may be more relevant is if a user always prefers tabs at the top of
the page. I know I prefer the tabs to be close to my taskbars - saves
movement. But that also may only be because I've never had a
choice...maybe I'd prefer them on the bottom, or on the side...or
someone else might.
I could see how maybe a Mac user that prefers his Dock placed other than
on the bottom of the screen may also like to have his tabs
located/oriented differently, in reflection of how his desktop workspace
is oriented...interesting thought.
Maybe that team has more Mac users on it or something, but from my Mac
user standpoint they got a lot of stuff right. Kudos to them.
I'm interested in what you think would be "getting things right" from a
mac perspective while still keeping SeaMonkey different. Note here the
user interface consists of both theme (icons, colors etc) and ui
elements (buttons, windows, drop-down lists etc).
For one, I think the basic colors are ok. From a Mac standpoint, there
really isn't much choice for the colors if you're using Apples standard,
or are trying to reflect the theme of the OS X system interface.
Aesthetically, if the SM Modern theme were just monochromed to match the
OS X color scheme instead of it's current silver/blue, that would be a
very good start, IMO. Maybe drop some of the "sculpting" lines - like
around the Location bar.
I also like to use a large navigation bar and a small Personal Items bar
- items on the small bar appear a bit too close together, I'd space them
out...but just a bit. I work around by dragging spaces into the
Personal Items bar.
Most of the things that annoyed me about the new default theme had to do
with it's cursor/click "hot" areas - there was/is a lot of area in the
taskbar where I felt I should have been able to right click
(cntrl+click) that were/are dead...so that was both non-intuitive and
difficult - particularly with my MacBook Pro trackpad.
The other thing was the lack of "grippie" function for the Sidebars -
lots of chat here about the Apple standard not allowing them the way
they were/are in the Modern theme...I think the best suggestion was to
just make the whole bar function as a grippie, vice just a small patch
around the "center dot".
These two issues alone drove me screaming to the Modern theme after
about a week...been far happier using that one.
A "different" feature which I've mentioned here - and have been told is
actually in the works for SM - would be the ability to open Mail/News in
a tab in the current browser window vise a window of it's own...Opera
does this, and it's REALLY slick for use on a laptop; never would have
guessed until I tried it. I'd like to see the option retained for
opening Mail/News in it's own window/own tabs as current, though - like
we can do for the browser.
A some of what made SM different in the first place got lost moving from
1.1.18 to 2.x...I'd certainly like to have ALL of those user options
back, and I know a lot of folk are screaming for the Forms Manager in
particular - if/when that comes back, I'd add the ability for the user
to "encrypt vice obscure" it's stored contents like in the Password
Manager. I'd use it then.
Oh, right: Please do not hijack this new thread with non-mac stuff ;-)
/Stefan
WILCO.
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- Rufus
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