Robert Kaiser wrote:
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb:
Well Mr. Kaiser, since you wrote the code and so know that the
solutions offered here by the other posters won't work
"as I don't think there is one."
you could have written as much here earlier
and so saved Mr. Mullen from his frustrating experiences and
needing to make his exasperated posting.
I couldn't because I needed to get localization needs, SeaMonkey's
requirement to have a menu that lists all available zoom levels and
toolkit's service we're using (and which uses the preference) all
working in concert. Not having any effect when the preference is being
set by the user was the best way to go in that light, esp. as older
SeaMonkey versions also didn't allow for the user setting different
levels, so the functionality is identical to previous versions (just not
as flexible as Firefox model, unfortunately, but they don't have the
list in the UI and so don't have those localization needs).
So, the user cannot alter the zoom levels. That's the bottom line.
And, while I'm not alone in needing finer control over zoom level, I,
and anyone else wanting such functionality, am pretty much screwed.
I never documented previous versions' zoom levels as it worked just fine
when I pressed CTRL-+ or CTRL-(-).
Can I offer up the phrase "unintended consequences?"
Frankly, it's making the browser nearly unusable for me.
I suppose if the NoSquint extension were made to work with 2.1b3 I could
just disable native per-site zoom level memory and use NS. However,
NoSquint isn't working with 2.1b3 so I'm pretty much screwed.
Horror of horrors, just a thought, contact the dev of NoSquint and try
to integrate that into the base-level SM product? That would be a nice
solution for the users instead of this kluge. And it is a kluge.
Dangling the preference out there (toolkit.zoomManager.zoomValues) to
users and then having it non-functional is frustrating and insulting.
And, by the way, where the heck is SM's zoom history stored?
SM's appeal, to people like me, is that I can figure out how it's
working, make changes, customize it. If that goes away, the usefulness
and appeal of the product goes away as well.
Look. For whatever programmatical reasons you need to do this, just
change the damned defaults to something more usable as discussed in:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=401221
As usual, a three or four year-old discussion.
Just change the defaults to something useful.
Well, ideally, you'd enable the pref so users could change it to suit
them. But, absent that, make it useful. It currently is not. The
changes, percentages, employed, are not useful.
Read the bug I cited and consider what is being said.
Oh, and, frankly, I couldn't care less if the zoom level's current
setting is available to view in a UI. If that is the whole
"localization" issue, screw it. SeaMonkey users are power users. We
tweak. You take that away from us? I'm outta here. Do not Firefox me.
If you do that then you take away any reason for me to use SeaMonkey.
Firefox is anathema to me. You've still got me, but just barely.
Been using this and previous incarnations since 1995. What? You don't
like me any more?
Seriously, the closer SM gets to FF the less likely I am to continue to
use it. Too many choices out there. Most of which integrate with my
new smart phone better.
Arrggg! Since 1995 I have never been so dis-heartened and frustrated
with any sw product.
I spend hundreds of dollars a year on sw. I'd pay for SeaMonkey if it
were true to its origins and worked well. I'm not asking for free
genius or free brilliance.
But, for God's sake, make it work. And make it work the way we're used
to it working.
BTW, yes, I understand that I'm using a Beta product. I do this rarely.
And I expect some "stuff" to not work. This is not that case.
This is just a bad choice.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
"A conscience is like a boat or a car. If you feel you need one, rent
it." - J.R. Ewing
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