On 6/3/2016 9:55 AM, NFN Smith wrote:
Seeing that this hasn't gotten a response.
Actually there have been a few responses. When I try to read them
they are marked as expired, including my responses to them and
now also my REPOSTs of my responses when I first discovered my
replies had for also been marked as expired.
I will have to research how to properly report the problem. IIRC
someone else also reported a similar problem.
Richard Owlett wrote:
I have been following recent thread on
mozilla-support-thunderbird with
subject line "Thunderbird Extremely Slow and Pegging CPU".
There have
been references to several Thunderbird specific articles on
kb.mozillazine.org . Mozillazine articles frequently are
targeted at a
specific product but have an introductory sentence/paragraph
indicating
they are applicable to other products in the Mozilla family. The
articles referenced do not have that sentence/paragraph. Is
there any
*GROSS* difference between Thunderbird and SeaMonkey Mail/News?
Not as far as I'm aware.
I'm an antique using SeaMonkey 2.26.1 under WinXP Pro SP3.
I have only POP email.
.../[profileid].slt/Mail occupies 2.5 GB with 417 files in 66
folders
.../[profileid].slt/Mail/[primary email acct] occupies 136
files in 15
folders
.../[profileid].slt/News occupies 140 MB with 162 files in 8
folders
I retain full text of all email.
I retain only headers for news.
Nothing remarkable there.
I tend to:
1. take a coffee break when launching SeaMonkey.
2. hibernate my computer rather than shutdown SeaMonkey.
3. notice that defragging makes SeaMonkey load faster.
I have ~20 active tags for emails and news articles.
I use read and flag status as modifiers to above.
I use a paid news server so archives may be more extensive than
typical ;/
Functionality is *MORE* important than speed.
Comments &/or suggestions?
A couple of thoughts...
- If you're making extensive use of rules, that might have a
little effect, but possibly not dramatic.
I'm unsure of your use of "rules":
1. I have 16 filters to direct incoming to appropriate folder
2. I select from 14 customized rules for displaying a folder
I don't see how either could affect how long it would take
SeaMonkey to load.
I do not automatically load any mail/news. Until recently I was
on dialup, it caused annoyances.
- Unless you're using Windows XP, you shouldn't have do manual
defrags to get performance benefits. In Windows 6.x (Vista and
later), default configs have a scheduled defragging process that
runs weekly. A possible exception could be if you're running a
nearly full hard drive (usage more than 75% of capacity), or
you've recently done a lot of writing to the hard drive (e.g.,
writing a big batch of new files, or deleting a lot of content --
both on the orders of several GB).
I do run XP and my disk is running near 75% capacity. Essentially
all disk activity is SeaMonkey related. I will *NOT* be updating
Widows - will be shortly be moving to Linux.
- I don't know that hibernate is likely to be doing anything, at
least not in ongoing usage. However, I know that on the
occasions that I hibernate my machines, reviving them seems to
take noticeably longer before everything is truly stable, than a
full shutdown and restart.
I hibernate BECAUSE it is faster ;}
Also I have always be annoyed with how long XP takes to load
after power up on this machine [lenovo T43 laptop].
I run TrueCrypt with full-drive
encryption, and I don't know if that contributes, or not. It's
also worth noting that with Windows 8 and later, in Microsoft's
efforts to produce a faster booting experience, the default
handling for "shutdown" is actually "hibernate". You can tweak
those settings, so that Windows will offer "hibernate", where
you're expressly selecting hibernation, and "shutdown" is a true
shutdown, but it's not the default setting.
N/A
- One thing you should check is behavior with a separate profile,
although that's a little more complicated with a POP setup. One
of the things I do is to maintain a "bare metal" profile, with
nearly all default settings -- with that, if Seamonkey isn't
behaving the way I want it to, I can check to see if it's really
a Seamonkey issue, or if it's something that's specific to my
profile. Most often, it's the latter. However, I normally use
that for the browser, and I don't configure mail into that profile.
I may experiment with that, but as I say I'm about to move to Linux.
If you want to check mail/news, you could configure your accounts
into a test profile, where you either do IMAP, or you set POP
accounts to leave mail on the server, although that won't do
anything for your rules handling.
Several months ago, I did a rebuild of my primary profile. The
one that I was working from was *really* old, possibly dating
back through the old Mozilla suite to a Netscape 4 installation.
This profile is not that old. Don't recall how/when I created it.
It could conceivably have pieces/ideas that date that far back.
None mail/news related.
There was a lot of accumulated crud in the profile, including a
lot of junk in prefs.js (old printer definitions, stuff left over
from extensions that were tried and discarded, etc.), as well as
inconsistencies of email accounts, where I changed addresses
and/or server names on existing mail accounts, rather than doing
the proper thing and creating new accounts.
At least I've done one thing right.
Although the effect wasn't dramatic, I found a little speed, and
noticeably better stability on a fresh profile.
- I've found that occasionally, performance in Mozilla products
(Seamonkey, Firefox and Thunderbird) may be improved by turning
off hardware acceleration for your display. That's one of those
things that is typically specific to the hardware bundle that
you're running.
I don't know if this machine has any - purchased as a refurbished
machine several years ago. I've never intentionally
added/activated any.
- On my primary profile, I have multiple email accounts (mostly
POP) and multiple news accounts. Something that I discovered a
long time ago was that I was a little too aggressive on
scheduling checks for updated content.
I never automatically check.
One of the things that I
did was to lower the frequency of checking, and also adjust
schedules, so that I wasn't checking servers simultaneously, at
least most of the time. In particular, with news servers, I set
one server to check hourly, a second server to check on a 55
minute rotation, and a third server to check on a 65 minute
rotation. My mail accounts are handled in a similar way, even if
the check rotation is much shorter. Unless I leave Seamonkey
open for several days at a time (and I only do that
occasionally), it's rare that I have update checks for more than
one server running at any specific time.
- For your specific symptoms, you may actually be having a
hardware problem, possibly an issue with your hard drive. If you
spend most of your time in Seamonkey (and comparatively small
amounts of time in other applications, especially if Seamonkey
isn't active), then it's easy to assume that Seamonkey is the
problem, without seeing effect on other applications.
Over the past several years, I've seen a handful of computers
that are are noticeably slow, with no immediately obvious reason
-- no problems with not enough RAM or nearly full hard disk, CPU
usage at expected levels, well-tuned for performance (especially
auto-start and memory-resident processes).
In each of those cases, when I ran a SMART check of the hard
drive, I found that there were reports of relocated sectors, and
that is an indication of a drive that's in the process of
failing. In each case, after I replaced the hard drive,
performance issues disappeared.
I used an old Seagate diagnostic which reported no problems. I
don't recall if it ran any SMART tests. It's a Seagate specific
diagnostic that they had made available several years ago.
Thank you for your time.
Smith
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