WaltS48 wrote:
On 9/10/17 11:04 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
I probably need to do a Fx Nightly again just to see what changed but this is all so much urgkkk for only fanboys to love. This is all rushed and I personally hope it backfires but even this would do SeaMonkey no good.

Do you really call Photon and Quantum development over version 55, 56 and 57 nighties, and 57 betas rushed?

When I first saw Australis, I went wtf?, then working with it over a series of Nightlies, I learned how to customize and use it.

Sure about 500,000 users installed CTR, but what percentage of total Firefox users is that.

When I first saw Photon in Fx 55.0, I went wtf?, where did my Menu Button icons go!. Now working with Photon over a series of Nightlies I've learned how to customize and use it.

Do I like all the changes. Not really, but clicking the Library button and having access to Bookmarks, Pocket List, History, Synced Tabs, Screenshots and Downloads is nice.

Call me fanboy if you like. Somebody has to counter the doom and gloom of the whiners.

The seemingly arbitrary and heavily bureaucratic decimation of a large number of older APIs and core features that power users depend on (in Mozilla's desperate bid to stay relevant in a world dominated by people who get flustered when the homepage of google tells them to download and install a new browser for an enhanced browsing experience) is more of the issue in this case.

Ignoring the random changes in Firefox's UI over the years, most of which are ignorable and/or inconsequential, there has been a troubling trend recently of an arbitrary reduction and deprecation of many different parts of the mozilla-central tree (you can't even keep history longer than like six months without yielding to extension fodder! They're removing 10+ years of work from add-on developers under the guise of techno-'modernity' and 'safety').

I am not saying that our community has all of the answers to these problems (the largest, imo, is a socio-cultural norm established by Google that socializes users in such a way as to passively accept a heavily simplified browsing experience, leading to a much smaller community of 'hackers'/power-users (which was, in comparison, fostered by orgs like Netscape/old Mozilla/etc.) thus causing other projects/organizations to follow suite to gain back the user-base that they lose).

Anyway, complaining about this probably won't really change any of the decisions coming from Mozilla, so for the foreseeable future, we'll just need to continuously re-build from the pieces that are left after the insanity of the Firefox 57 release dissipates.

-john
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