On Saturday 11 January 2003 07:07 pm, Pete Soden wrote: > Well gee what a load of help you are to someone who hasn't had the joy > and benefit of actually using a fully set up node, this sort of attitude > is why people give up after they try the software then when it doesn't > work and can't find any help. > > So why don't we try to be constructive? instead of <sarcasm></sarcasm> > 1) Mention of these sort of things on freenetproject.org > 2) Add a link to a google search that is looking for the seednode.ref > from the gateway/failure page?
I had the privelege of being in #freenet for most of Saturday, and a couple of newbies were confused and frustrated because freenetproject.org was down, and they couldn't get seeds, latest freenet.jar, etc. In trying to help some of these poor souls by asking questions and offering possible options, I was repeatedly flamed on "why is freenetproject.org down? why isn't there a mirror? why, why why..." In the end I don't think I was helpful to anyone; I offered to send someone my jar files, seeds, and whatever they wanted but it wasn't good enough. One person wanted a specific build (5xx or something), and when I could not produce it (I don't keep the old buggy jars) I was met with more complaining and bitching on why everything is screwed up, how freenet has been in development for the last 70 years, etc. Greg just gave you good solid advice, wrapped in a little sarcasm. If you've spent any time working on this project as I have (albeit client tools) you may become sarcastic at times, since it so often feels like a thankless task. Building an application "to ensure true freedom of communication over the Internet" takes more than just a weekend of coffee and pizza. Lucky for me, I code for personal satisfaction. I sincerely wish you good luck :) -- Jay Oliveri "In the land of the blind, GnuPG ID: 0x5AA5DD54 the one-eyed man is king." FCPTools Maintainer www.sf.net/users/joliveri _______________________________________________ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
