"You've missed the point completely. The error message was "Could not find
the main class." A java programmer knows this to be not an error with the
virtual machine, but more of a classpath issue (the VM cannot find the
class; it never actually *ran* anything).

Recommending that the user upgrade their VM is bad advice since that clearly
isn't the issue. It's not too much to ask those who wish to contribute by
answering support questions that they actually understand the nuances of
Java."

"Recommending that the user upgrade their VM is bad advice since that
clearly isn't the issue." is a prime example of spicious reasoning: it does
not follow, because it's not the main issue, that it is bad advice. At most,
if the advice was not wrong on itself and if no other recommandations were
made, it would constitute inadequate advice.

I didn't miss the point, but you mix two things: the recommandation that he
uses another JVM, and the recommandation that he should just auto-install
the stuff, and not put it manually in a folder. That installing a new JVM is
probably not a main issue under XP was made clear enough by my words:
'besides', 'mostly for linux', 'preferably', etc.

The fact that it couldn't find the path IS probably due to him installing
stuff manually in a folder. Under windows, with the webupdate and all, you
can auto-install JVM as well as freenet 'out of the box', without any manual
moving around afterwards, as I've said. In fact, your comment about him
installing it manually and that he will discover his error, hints at this as
well. But since I think it's more difficult to find the right file(s) and
move it to the right folder, or adapt the path; the most easy thing to do is
auto-installing a new JVM. I have done exactly the same more then once, also
under windows, and I've never encountered classpath problems, so IMHO, the
recommandation was not 'bad'.

Using another JVM like the 1.5.x build is an extra recommandation, for the
reasons I already said in earlier posts (and to which you do not agree, I
know). Maybe your interaction with users is vastly more elaborate then mine,
but *I* didn't see much bugreports with as cause the 1.5.x build, certainly
not compared to the 1.4.2 build. And, as you indicated, Toad himself has
recommended it already too.

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