Matthew Toseland a écrit : >On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 06:36:53PM +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote: > > >>Following the post named "Hypothetical question", I'd like to expose you >>a practical case : the French community. Stop me when I'm wrong. >> >>We all know each others only by Freenet and it is said that it isn't >>enough to form a darknet together, correct ? So we'll have to stay on >>the opennet which is less secure. >> >>If, by a kind of miracle, I meet someone IRL that I trust and is >>interrested in Freenet. We make a darknet together and... we're >>completely alone ! We won't even see the opennet, so we'll have no >>chance to make new connections except IRL. >> >>If the French Community decides to make a Darknet, we'll maybe be able >>to make connections to non-french users we know (but only in Freenet, >>which is a very BAD trust relationship) and to join the big darknet. But >>newcommers, how will they find us ? We won't be able to see their posts >>or sites. >> >> > >As far as the above goes, please read the responses to the other post. > >
I did. So you confirm my understanding ? 99% of current Freenet users won't be able to join the darknet and will have to use opennet. >>Suppose Freenet 0.7 becomes illegal in France (what it already is, >>because of the AES 256 encryption). The opennet won't be secure for us, >>but we won't be able to join the darknet. What could we do ? Keep on >>using 0.5 ? >> >> > >The opennet will probably be more secure than 0.5. But both are very >easy to shut down, because they can be very easily harvested - all nodes >can be found easily, meaning they can be blocked, attacked, etc. > > That is why I'm searching a way for someone who is neither a member of alpha-testers/Freenet-devs, nor a very organised terrorist/paedophile to join the darknet. Do you think it would be possible for nodes in the darknet to see what happens in the opennet ? Maybe a special kind of nodes that acts as a gateway between the 2 networks : it wouldn't endanger the anonymity of thoses who are in the darknet but it would give them the ability to see the newcommers and eventually decide to invite them. My opinion is that a resistance-network has to be closed tight when war is on. But it needs to create itself before that. So if some people could choose the become some "fuses" between open and dark, the darknet would remain safe and be able to "recruit". I'm affraid that if this fonctionnality isn't enabled in Freenet, people will do it by other ways (internet forums, mailing-lists, weak encrypted emails, etc.) which are way less secure than Freenet. Or worse, some will decide to publish their keys and allow anyone to connect to the darknet through them... -- http://www.freenet-fr.org _______________________________________________ Support mailing list [email protected] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
