On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 12:58:44PM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote:
> 
> On 20 Sep 2005, at 11:33, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> >>Well, if that would truly be the topology then the alternative is
> >>"clusters of isolated dark nodes", which is worse?
> >>
> >
> >There would be no real reason to grow the darknet, that's the  
> >point. If
> >the only way to connect (easily) is by growing the darknet, it will
> >grow.
> 
> So you propose to force people to run darknet nodes even though they  
> might be quite satisfied to use the opennet?  I don't believe in  
> forcing users to do things against their will.

Eh? I don't understand. If they want to use the opennet, they can use
the opennet.
> 
> >>>The result of which is that it does not tell
> >>>us anything about the viability of the global darknet. And WHEN,
> >>>not if,
> >>>the opennet is compromized, there is no global darknet. Just a few
> >>>disconnected nodes.
> >>
> >>If you truly believe that dark nodes would be in small isolated
> >>pockets, then what makes you believe that a pure-darknet is viable at
> >>all without open nodes to glue it together?
> >
> >I don't believe people would make the effort to grow the darknet if  
> >they
> >are connected by open nodes. And furthermore, if they are connected by
> >open nodes, it tells us nothing whatsoever about the viability of a
> >fully dark network.
> 
> People get a choice.  If people chose to leave their nodes open, then  
> so be it.  It isn't our place to force people to do one thing or the  
> other.

In which case the whole experiment will have been totally pointless, and
there will be NOTHING to build on in the future, because we won't have
actually prototyped the globally scalable darknet.
> 
> Ian.
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