Thanks Jeppe… that’s my feeling too.

There are companies out there with 256k connections with dozens of users.

It just doesn’t make sense that downloading updates can saturate and make 
internet access useless. If that’s the case,  everyone on this list should be 
complaining about it all the time. It just doesn’t make sense to me...  maybe I 
just had too high an expectation for a T1.

I’d understand if it was 20 computers or more… the available bandwidth would be 
so small, that windows update would appear to stall, other computers trying to 
do other things would be slow but in my mind…

If 4 computers, then 1.5Mbit / 4 is the speed.
If 20 computers, then 1.5Mbit / 20 is the speed.
If 100 computers, then 1.5Mbit/100 is the speed.

It should just get slower and divide the bandwidth evenly since there are no 
rules to shape it.

I just remember 8 years ago, running windows update on Windows 2000 machines 
all hooked to a T1 in the middle of the night. I could easily get 10+ machines 
doing it all at the same time. Maybe back then the update downloads were so 
small it wasn’t an issue? Not sure…  But I do know it wouldn’t crap out 
completely.

Regards,
ChuckM

From: Jeppe Øland [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] RE: T1 Saturating - Windows update kills the 
connection... ??

During this new firewall installation, someone decided to run Windows Updates 
on a four computers. Previously, this would not have choked the network, but 
with the new firewall (and new T1), it is choking it. Choking it dead. The four 
machines appear to contend for connectivity but after a few minutes, a couple 
of them just stall, one slows way down to a crawl and another stills keeps 
going (slower). Trying to browse the web on another computer is pretty much 
impossible. It's all bogged down.

It didn't happen with the old connection right?
(sure it was faster, but Microsofts servers are way faster than that so it 
shouldn't matter)

Sounds like there is a problem with the new connection if you ask me.
Is it a full duplex 1.5/1.5 connection?

Regards,
-Jeppe

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