On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 10:20:35PM +0000, John Leonard wrote:

> Hmm, not what I've found: I mean, really not what I've found.

No point in discussing basic physics, a self noise of 19 dB(A)
and a sensitivity of 7 mv/Pa amount to -116 dBm(A) at the
input of the preamp. Unless I botched up the the calculations:

7 mV = -43.1 dBV = -40.9 dBm 
1 Pa = 94 dB SPL

19 - 40.9 - 94 = -115.9

> Sorry to disagree, but I've tried a number of systems and have
> found that the low-cost recorders that I've used, un-modded, have
> had unacceptable noise levels when cranked up.

And what EIN levels do the specs of these recorders state ?

There may be a different issue at work here. EIN is normally 
measured at maximum gain. A well-designed preamp should have
more or less constant EIN for the upper 25..30 dB of the gain
range, but many don't.

Ciao,

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