Day,

The issue isn't so much "the keyboard" as a
concept called "CUA" (Common User Access).

It's the thing that establishes some sort of
standard for keystrokes and mouse clicks
for applications.

For instance, Ctrl+Z for Undo, Ctrl+A for Select
All, Ctrl+C for Copy, Ctrl+V for Paste.  Somehow
CUA has never really made it to the F1-F12 keys
(yes, I know applications take advantage of them,
but a "standard"? -- NOT).

For a brief period, when the F1-F10 keys were
easily reached on the left, and you could press
Shift-, Ctrl-, or Alt- and any F-key you wanted
with just one hand, it looked like the F-keys might
become meaningful in CUA.  Then, with the AT-339,
all then went South.

Function keys are cool to have, but I now longer
code to them.  And, yes, I have a nice (and rather
expensive) Cherry keyboard for my laptop that
I bought for the simple reason that it does NOT
have the "Windows" keys.  It's very compact,
a joy to type on, and has no unneeded keys.

~~Garry
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Day Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: [SURVPC] shell


> "Anthony J. Albert" wrote:
> >
> > On 8 Aug 2001, at 19:18, Day Brown wrote:
> > >Thanx for all the tips Marc.
> > >Sometimes I wish there was a UNIVERSAL FAQ with a standard set
> > >of generally accepted hotkeys for programmers to follow. There
> > >is no reason it could not apply to all OSes. Take the 'b' key
> > >for instance. I dont hava problem with it backing up a page,
> > >but why not also have the pgup key do the same? How long has
> > >it been since anyone has seen a keyboard which did not have
> > >the extended keyset? cheeze.
> >
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > Uhm.... yesterday?
> All I got to go by is what I see in the computer magazines and
> ads. Maybe the .02% of people who work with vast network systems
> and mainframes, but I dont see that stuff for sale from Egghead,
> Home depot, Circuit City, et al, that 99.8% of everyone else
> uses. as for foreign kybds, I dunno about the oriental, but I've
> seen german and spanish ones with the very same extended keyset
> for sale at the same kind of low prices, under 10$.
>
> I spoze you could get a dumb terminal keyboard without these,
> but why would anyone pay more for something with less functionality?
> Is is not that market for which 99.8% of software is being written?
>
> Of course, there are real functinality issues with the kybd as it
> is, but it is a standard, just like the x86.
>

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