"Steven C. Darnold" wrote: > > daybrown wrote: > > > > Part of the file management problem in Linux is that there > > are so many more files to deal with. > > More than DOS, but not more than Windows. I recently had > to search through Windows 95 directories for a particular > file. It took ages! Oh I hear that. I've heard it for years. I heard it so much I resolved to avoid windoz and find an alternative. Nix is still a bitch, but it shows promise of eventually getting organized. There were dos desktop distros like DQV or 4DOS that went a long ways twards organizing, and sofware sets that tried to provide everthing a user would need like a Linux distro... the file manager, text editor, etc, and the user never saw the dos prompt... as noted below.
> > the upshot is that I can try out a lot more tools a whole > > lot faster in dos > > There is probably less need in Linux to import a lot of > tools and try them out. Most Linux distributions include > so many tools in the installation, that you will be very > busy just figuring out what you've got. You can say that again. But of the long list of distros which I have installed by now, the _ONLY_ text mode file manager that any of them presented me with was MC. If, as said, there are Linux file managers that do indeed offer all the functionality of DF, DW, or DC.com, then why are they not obviously recommended and put where a NEWBIE will run into them? And to be sure, the Linux 3cd sets I have prolly have everthing I would ever need.. if I can figure out how to find them. Corel Delux, with wordperfect, Photopaint, & Netscape will prolly handle everything 99% of home users need. But it's beginning to look like the old days of five inch floppies cause I got a shoebox nearly full of CD ROMs now to look thru. A catalogue tool would be nice, but still a bitch, cause some of the distros will handle some of the archives but not others. With sites like Garbo, the catalog is already there, online, and since the dos utilities tend to be so small, it'd be faster to find a dos one and download it than it would be to find a similar nix tool in the shoebox. Right quick during the install Suse offers to let me do it with the CLI, to run FDISK, but infers, and it is most certainly right, the the CLI is not for Linux Newbies. As for DOS being for geeks, well that would be so were the user also confronted with that CLI, but in point of fact, 'turnkey' menu systems have been out there for dos newbies since the mid-80's that had the autoexec pop up first thing with a color ansi menu of boxes for the user to 'click' or 'enter' on to do the routine tasks of word processing, spreadsheet, both of which had internal file managers, and maybe even a fax tool. These users never saw the dos prompt. > > I never hear about people who have to 're-install' DR-DOS in > > order to straighten out some mess caused by an app. > > I've never heard of anyone having to re-install Linux because > of some mess caused by an app. Except, of course, for impetuous > newbies who blunder into things without understanding what they > are doing. Such blunders could be avoided by thoroughly reading > documentation and asking questions. Well, you can hear of one right now. I got a brand new Suse on the scsi, and tried to install games off a couple of CD ROMs. You know how you can open the control center and you get this list on the left? well all of a sudden the section just below 'desktop' called 'hardware' is missing. The next one now on the list is 'information'. The printer, floppy disk, and the dos ide are all gone. Not even Yast would bring back the printer. And yes, Bob is right, Yast looks like the best system managment tool I've seen.. if it would work properly. It churns the scsi something fierce, but the printer icon still dont do nothing and an error comes up at every print command. To unsubscribe from SURVPC send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe SURVPC in the body of the message. Also, trim this footer from any quoted replies. More info can be found at; http://www.softcon.com/archives/SURVPC.html
