--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Slayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm sure that reclaimation of the landfills will happen well before Archeologists have a chance to study it. ;-) Someone will realize that mining the landfills produces much wealth.
James Slayden On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Hakan Falk wrote: > > Dear Harley, > > If you are right, I will sleep better. Knowing that the landfill now > is long life plastic pallets. At least it is dumped in American land > fills. Something for future Archeological excavations, if some one > is left to do such activities. > > Hakan > > At 03:32 PM 11/24/2002 -0600, you wrote: > >Dear Mr. Falk: > > > >Your information was exaggerated and dated. The hardwood pallet made in > the > >U.S., are reused. Most of the wood pallets have been replaced with a > longer > >life plastic pallets of one design or another. When wood pallets where > in > >use, they where constantly reused, until breakage. If broken they where > >rebuilt, and used again. Until they where beyond repair. Then usually > >someone would take them home, and burns them to heat their house. > > > >It was more cost effective to use a low quality hardwood for pallets > because > >they would last long than using a softwood. It use to save money and > trees > >to use hardwoods in pallet construction. That is until a long life > plastic > >pallet became more cost affective. > > > >Only in America! > > > >Harley Fellion > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Hakan Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 10:38 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Back Online > > > > > > > > Only in America!!! > > > > I was not aware of that US made pallets of hardwood and did not think > that > > it could ever be a stupid luxury consumption like this. I can see > reason > > for some pallets to be made of hardwood, but they should be guarded > and > > reused. But this irresponsible behavior cannot be excused. Six > pallets of > > hardwood per American in land fills, give me a break! > > > > I am of the opinion that it is almost a sin to use hardwood for > pallets in > > the first place. How can you use types of trees that take 50 to 100 > years > > to mature for purposes like this. Hardwood is also very stupid to put > in > > landfills, because of the long time it takes to disintegrate. If you > >really > > need to waste hardwood, effective burning is probably the best. > Compared > >to > > the pallets we mostly use in Europe, made of pine tree, hardwood take > 4-8 > > times longer to mature. Even the fast growing teak, developed mainly > in > > central and south America, takes at least 2-4 the time to mature as > pine > > trees and it is questionable if it is still hardwood. The fast > growing > >teak > > is softer, but still have the natural defense against humidity and > >insects. > > > > Hardwood is mostly a tropical or sub tropical tree and how can US use > this > > for pallets and at the same time be upset about the deforestation of > the > > remaining oxygen suppliers of the world. The hardwood of Europe was > by > > tradition the property of the Kings, wherever it was rooted, because > of > >its > > value for building ships and as structural building material. In this > case > > oak was a strategic defense material. Oak used as structure for > buildings, > > was inherited and reused for new buildings. The value of oak was > almost > > comparable to gold a few hundred years ago. > > > > Hakan > > > > > > At 07:25 AM 11/24/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > > > > > >Keith Addison wrote: > > > > > > > Re wasted wood, I picked this up somewhere or other, for the US, > not > > > > Canada: "In 1999, for instance, 7.5 million tons of wooden > pallets - > > > > platforms associated with shipping - went into the solid waste > > > > stream, accounting for over 60 percent of all wood waste." And: > > > > "There are an estimated 6 hardwood palletts in landfill for every > > > > resident of the US." > > > > > > > > > ><snip> > > > > > > Indeed! I used to collect hardwood pallets, cut them up and > burn > > >them. Over the course of the "average" winter, my family burned 8 > tons > > >of wood like this. We hadn't paid for heat in years! Making the > leap > > >back into fossil fueled residential heating was a hard decision for > me. > > >I like the automaticity of our natural gas boiler, but we haven't > > >received a bill yet . . . > > > > > > > > > > > I just posted this somewhere else: > > > > > > > > "... the United States is now far from being a sustainable > society, > > > > and in many respects is further away than it was at the time of > the > > > > Earth Summit in 1992. Unlike many other developed countries, the > > > > United States has not used a strategic process to move the > country > > > > toward a sustainable future and has not educated the American > people > > > > about the opportunities and challenges of sustainable > development." > > > > > ><snip> > > > > > > I've been lamenting about this for at least 30 years. That's > one of > > >the reasons I'm here. > > > > > >robert luis rabello > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Biofuels list archives: > > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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