this protein is a type of viriod , spelling may be wrong , but if you
blew a small pox virus to the size of an elephant this viriod would
still only be the size of a mouse , and a centrifuge after several days
will hardly concentrate it to the bottom of a test tube. Robby
Hakan Falk wrote:
>Hi Keith,
>
>I read trough many of the messages about BSE and found a lot of
>speculations of what it is, but non that actually comes close to the
>explanations I got. The disorder was first discovered by Creutzfeldt and
>Jakob some 80 years ago in cannibal tribes and are carrying their names,
>Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) (I think it should be disorder not
>disease). It is a protein that normally deposits in the human brain in
>minuscule quantities and as such poses no risks. The cannibal tribes that
>displayed super high occurrences of the CJD, had the habit of eating their
>ancestors brains when they died, in the belief that this would transfer the
>knowledge and wisdom.
>
>It is not an infection nor is it a virus, it is a protein and as such
>resistant to any kind of disinfection like heating etc. Suggesting
>protective clothing and other things in dealing with caucuses is panic
>driven and uninformed actions. The process is that the protein, when eaten
>deposits in the nervous system and especially the brain. At some point the
>protein reaches a critical mass, when it starts to replicate fast and will
>then develop the consequences that we call CJD. It is a known disease and
>it has always been a few cases per year where some individuals started to
>replicate the protein, but for largely unknown reasons. Originally
>discovered, the opinion was that the disease could not cross between
>species and therefore it was a lot of rejection when BSE (the cattle
>variant of CJD) started to turn up. Cattle are not meat eaters and the
>obvious reason for BSE was the invention of feeding waste from slaughter
>houses back to cattle. We made the cows cannibals, an animal that normally
>are completely protected by it's vegetarian diet!!! Then it also show that
>the assumption of non transferal between species was not accurate and
>coupled with incubation times of around 20 years made the shit hit the fan.
>The humans and animals does not start to get any traceable quantities of
>the protein until a certain age and that is why we now have a rule that any
>cattle that goes into the human food chain must be younger than 2 years.
>
>The most scaring thing is that it is no way to know now if it is a crises
>or not. The discovered cases in Europe is a few hundred, but no one knows
>what we might see 15 to 20 years down the line. We do not know yet, if it
>was a well founded panic or not. But better safe than sorry.
>
>I had all kind of thoughts about this, after reading news papers and
>looking at TV. A friend of mine is specialist on this kind of things and I
>took it up with him and learned this and much more. It shows that he
>actually was a member of the BSE advisory team to the government in the
>country where he lives. I hope that I understood everything right, but
>cannot completely guarantee it.
>
>Hakan
>
>
>At 02:36 AM 1/6/2003 +0900, you wrote:
>
>
>>Hi Hakan
>>
>>
>>>try to circumvent the regulations, an attempt to piggyback on their
>>>problems with "mad cow decease" to capture a traditional English
>>>market segment. That is also why I made the remark about the
>>>English export to developing countries, of the same animal food
>>>that causes the "mad cow decease" in the first place. Also a
>>>factual case that I did not hear anyone on the list complain about.
>>>
>>>
>>There was quite a lot about it, though some people kept sneering at
>>the "off-topic" Mad Cow Disease posts. Never mind that it obviously
>>had a bearing on biodiesel feedstock. This message pinned down the
>>worldwide export of infected BSE material from the UK by Prosper de
>>Mulder:
>>http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=2540&list=BIOFUEL
>>
>>There's a full list of the countries involved and how much they
>>received. Some of it also went to the US, and later there was a row
>>over the very belated and half-hearted US controls, with one list
>>member involved in the industry there claiming the "professionals"
>>knew best - exactly as the "professionals" in all the other countries
>>had claimed before BSE hit them too. Including Japan. "Trust us,
>>we're experts".
>>
>>
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