Once upon a time it was created with CH4 + O and a chromium or copper catalyst. High pressure and temperatures were needed, that's why even the big plants use syngas now.
-- --- Martin Klingensmith http://nnytech.net/ http://infoarchive.net/ Daniel West wrote: >Hi mark, >as far as I know the easy way to go - to put an O >into the CH4 by a catalytic reaction - is not >state of the art. We were talking one time about >that and decied not to follow the theme (also it >seems a little bit dangerous to make it this way). >If you find something new to that theme let me know. >To go the longer way is doable but very elaborate: >reform the methane gas to synthesis gas (CO and >H2) then make the synthesis to methanol. You also >need gas cleaning (sulphur) and stuff. >I have no idea if the other ways to make methanol >are more easier - from wood or as by-product from >making alcohol, ... . > >daniel > >girl_mark_fire schrieb: > > >>This is all very interesting to me- I just spent part of last night >>looking for diy methanol info, with no success. My interest was in >>looking for info on turning methane (from a digester, digesting >>glycerine and other waste) into methanol. I now know more about fuel >>methanol (yuck) and no more about making the stuff. But google >>searches for biomethanol turn up that Smithfield Farms hog-waste-to- >>biomethanol-to-biodiesel-elsewhere plan. It was in the news a few >>months ago- and they hadn't at that point decided on where the >>biodiesel itself was going to be produced- and I;m kind of curious >>now about where that project has gone. >>Someone who was a list member turned up a plant that made industrial >>ethanol whose 'waste product' was quantities of methanol of >>questionable purity (contaminated with ethanol)- which the plant >>didn't know what to do with. something to definitely investigate in >>california- we can work with it if it's part ethanol and we're using >>good oil. >>If I remember correctly, I think that making methanol out of wood is >>pretty challenging and energy intensive- you have to heat it with no >>oxygen or something like that. It's pretty different than fermenting >>waste for ethanol production. >> >> I'm curious about biomethanol from methane, though- is it doable on >>a village (small business?) scale? >> >>mark >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z_CBYA/vB5FAA/AG3JAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
