OkŽ, I didn't mean to attack you. I think it's great the way you treat your animals!
Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole Netherlands Original Message ----- From: "Kim & Garth Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] McDonald's Tries To Phase Out Use of Antibiotics In Meat > The animals might not notice or understand what is going on, but I do. I > believe we are all connected and to abuse one part of our world or Gaia, is > to abuse ourselves. I have a much richer humus to put on my fields to > fertilize them and build up their abilities to feed me and my animals, > because I have the animals. I could not even grow vegetables without my > dogs, for the wild critters, eat it before it is ripe enough for me. My > dogs eat a natural diet, bones and raw food, so I am back to keeping > animals for food. > > My animals are allowed to be who they are, for example: My pigs have a mud > pit. My ducks are loose and have a pond all to themselves. This is part > of raising animals with a conscience. > > Bright Blessings, > Kim > > At 04:45 PM 6/20/2003 +0200, you wrote: > >Hello Kim, > >I am a vegetarian, so I think I am allowed to ask you this question : > >Do you think that animals notice wether or not they are getting drugs ? > >A horse doesn't know he's a lot stronger you are, but still you're his boss, > >and he is happy with it ( as long as you take care for him ). > >There are a lot of things we wouldn't like, because we have emotions, wich > >animals don't have (in our way). > >Due to my profession, I have studied thousands of animals in their behaviour > >( ethologist ) and I never found any difference between "drug treated" > >animals and "not treated" animals. > >Animals just go frustrated, when they cannot show their natural habits, like > >grazing for a cow, or rolling in the mud for a pig. They need to do so, just > >because they are a certain kind of animal. > > > > > >Met vriendelijke groeten, > >Pieter Koole > >Netherlands > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Kim & Garth Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:02 PM > >Subject: Re: [biofuel] McDonald's Tries To Phase Out Use of Antibiotics In > >Meat > > > > > > > People who raise their own animals usually give it a name. Something like > > > pork chop, t-bone or dinner for adults, snackettes for babies etc. Right > > > now, in this part of Texas, the only people doing strictly grass fed are > > > small producers. I only eat animals that have been raised naturally, by > > > which I mean with their natural diet requiring no drugs to make it > > > work. The animals also must have had happy, non-tortured lives with no > > > transport before death. > > > Bright Blessings, > > > Kim > > > > > > At 11:02 AM 6/20/2003 +0100, you wrote: > > > >Re: > > > > > > > > > My standard is basically, if it didn't have a name, and I don't know > >who > > > > > raised it, I'm a vegatarian. > > > > > > > > > > Bright Blessings, > > > > > KIm > > > > > > > >Hi Kim > > > > > > > >When you say something doesn't have a name, what does that mean? > > > > > > > >Regards > > > > > > > >Andrew > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >Andrew Preston > > > > > > > >http://www.fastmail.fm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > > >Biofuels list archives: > > > >http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > > > > > >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > > >To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! 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