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The numbers are not wacky, but they are the best I could find. Most other numbers show that it take more electricity than you get out. I am not saying that Hydrogen as such is a scam and that we could not find it viable in the future. What I say is that it is at the moment used as a diversion from more viable and "ready for use" alternatives. It is also used to give politicians and the public a false sense of security. In that sense it is a scam and a very dangerous one. In itself it is a very dangerous strategy to delay actions on viable alternatives, in favor of possible unproven technologies. I have joked about my Presidential energy plan, but you only have to do quite simple calculations on it and you will be amazed. All energy ideas must be pursued and the "ready for use" must be immediate subject for implementation. We are not dealing with responsible corporate and political leaders. If we did, US would not have a "Natural gas" crises now, it is a clear measurement of the incompetence or corruption of the current leadership. It is only those two choices, because every child learns the mathematics before 10 years of age, necessary to predict this crises a long time ago. Hakan At 11:20 AM 6/30/2003 -0700, you wrote: > >Hydrogen is like the fairy tales. To make 10 kW of Hydrogen from renewable > >source like electrolysis of water, you need 9 kW of electricity. > >FWIW: > >1. I think many environmentalists are making somewhat of a wrong call on >Hydrogen, seeing it as almost entirely bogus. I think it shows promise and >could be *part* of a robust future. Certainly some form of fuel cells will be >part of our future, and thus far, pure hydrogen has seemed fuel-cell oriented. >Sure, it's being used to sweep aside discussion of critical additional >measures, >such as solar energy, Battery and Hybrid Electric and other Alt-Fuel Vehicles, >critical progress on all manner of biomass ideas, etc. But that does not mean >we should dismiss Hydrogen efforts as basically a scam. If we do so, let >us do >so after giving better consideration to what H2 has to offer to the mix. > >2. Your numbers [above] seem to be just plain wacky. I don't know what >you're >trying to say. > >MM ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
