--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Harbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Hakan Falk To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 11:09 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE
Greg, I am sorry, but I do not belive that they could turn off the transponder on an air-liner, but maybe they got lost for other reasons. It must have been the Pennsylvania one, who was not in controlled air space. Hakan Actually..... Multiple reports, of transponders being turned off, one for each airliner. http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline_flight_aa_11 A little down the page: ( After 8:13 a.m. ) Shortly after flight controllers ask Flight 11 to climb to 35,000 feet, the transponder stops transmitting. The transponder is the electronic device that identifies the jet on the controller's screen, gives its exact location and altitude, and also allows a four-digit emergency hijack code to be sent. ( 8:20 a.m. ) Flight 11 stops transmitting its IFF (identify friend or foe) beacon signal. http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline_flight_ua_93 ( 9:30 a.m. ) The transponder signal from Flight 93 ceases and radar contact is lost. [9:30, MSNBC, 9/3/02, 9:40, CNN, 9/17/01] However, the plane can still be tracked, and is tracked at least at United headquarters until shortly before the final crash (the exact time is not mentioned). However, altitude can no longer be determined. The plane's speed begins to vary wildly, moving between 600 and 400 mph before eventually settling around 400 mph. ( UA 93 does not go down for aproximitly another 30 min. ) http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline_flight_ua_175 ( 8:42 a.m. ) A flight controller says of Flight 175, " . looks like he's heading southbound but there's no transponder no nothing and no one's talking to him." ( 8:46 am ) Flight 175 stops transmitting its transponder signal, according to some reports. It is 50 miles north of New York City, headed toward Baltimore. [8:46:18, Guardian, 10/17/01, "about the same time" as Flight 11 crash, Newsday, 9/10/02] Note that at 8:42, a flight controller said, "There's no transponder no nothing." [New York Times, 10/16/01 (B)] However, the transponder is turned off for only about 30 seconds, then changed to a signal that is not designated for any plane on that day. [Newsday, 9/10/02] This "allow[s] controllers to track the intruder easily, though they couldn't identify it." [Washington Post 9/17/01] http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline_flight_aa_77 ( 8:56 a.m. ) Flight 77's transponder signal is turned off. [8:56, Guardian, 10/17/01, 8:56, Boston Globe, 11/23/01, "six minutes before" Flight 175 hits WTC, Newsday, 9/23/01] Just prior to this, Flight 77 turns around over northeastern Kentucky, and starts heading back toward Washington. [Washington Post, 9/12/01, Newsday, 9/23/01] For some minutes the plane is missing because flight controllers are looking for the radar signal toward the west and don't realize the plane is headed east. Rumors circulate that the plane might have exploded in midair. [Newsday, 9/23/01] ( After 9:03 a.m. ) Controllers at the New York traffic center are briefed by their supervisors to watch for airplanes whose speed indicated that they are jets, but which either are not responding to commands or have disabled their transponders. "Controllers in Washington [get] a similar briefing, which [help] them pick out hijacked planes more quickly." [New York Times 9/13/01 (F)] Greg H. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --- End forwarded message ---
