I like to contemplate how the US may have approached 9/11 sans Bush.... I 
think the world may have been a much healthier place.

regards Doug

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 09:34 am, Appal Energy wrote:
> Tyrone,
>
> Me thinks you never took a psych course, much less reverse psych.
>
> Those who oppose the US presence on "Arab" soils, along with a few other US
> insults, prefer Bush because he's foolish, near-sighted and lacking in
> ability to see beyond the dogmas of his choice regligion and his queer
> interpretation of democracy, all of which weakens America without any need
> for their throwing the first rock. Oddly enough, Mr. Bush's arrogance under
> the guise of presidential authority also entices new recruits rich in
> seething anger.
>
> Bush is nothing more than a double edged sword pressed against the American
> throat.
>
> Kerry? A little more aware of bigger pictures and options to navigate
> through, to or away from them, with enough of a hint of American swagger as
> to be formidable if provoked.
>
> Now if you were an insurgent hell bent on seeing America anhilated, who
> would be your first preference?
>
> Todd Swearingen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tyrone Slothrop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 12:57 AM
> Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Kerry preferred around World - Poll
>
> > Actually, I'd like to see a lot more on bio-fuel and a lot
> > less of this kind of stuff. That said, it's worth answering
> > Allan's reply. I would suggest he go straight to the source and
> > consider what our enemies, Al Qaeda, think about George Bush.
> >
> > http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1068257.htm
> >
> > "The statement said it supported US President George W Bush
> > in his re-election campaign and would prefer him to win in
> > November rather than the Democratic candidate John Kerry,
> > as it was not possible to find a leader "more foolish than
> > you [Bush], who deals with matters by force rather than with wisdom".
> >
> > In comments addressed to Mr Bush, the group said "Kerry will kill
> > our nation while it sleeps because he and the Democrats have the
> > cunning to embellish blasphemy and present it to the Arab and
> > Muslim nation as civilisation".
> >
> > "Because of this we desire you [Bush] to be elected."
> >
> > Seems pretty clear to me what our enemies want, Allan. Also seems
> > pretty clear what our (former) friends want. But what do I
> > know, I just live in Manhattan. It's not like any of
> > this affects me, unlike you I'm sure...
> >
> > Racketmensch
> >
> > "It was as if Bin Laden, hidden in some mountain redoubt,
> > were engaging in long-range mind control of George Bush,
> > chanting: 'Invade Iraq, you must invade Iraq.'"
> > - Richard Clark -
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Allan De Groot
> > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:58 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kerry preferred around World - Poll
> >
> >
> > So far that is THE best aregument for re-electing Bush that I've heard.
> >
> > America's foreign interests may well go against world opinion.
> > if so that's just too bad....
> > I don't think that having US national security issues decided
> > in Paris or Bejing is "sound judgement"
> >
> > the citing that in China Kerry is prefered sets off serious warning bells
>
> in
>
> > my mind.
> > If it doesn't in your mind there is something very wrong.
> >
> > AD
> >
> > At 10:38 PM 9/8/04 -0500, you wrote:
> > > Most countries want Kerry in White House
> > > Sep 9, 2004
> > > http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_9-9-2004_pg4_2
> > >
> > > WASHINGTON: A majority of people in 30 of 35 countries want Democratic
> > > party flagbearer John Kerry in the White House, according to a survey
> > > released Wednesday showing US President George W Bush rebuffed by
> > > all of America's traditional allies.
> > >
> > > On average, Senator Kerry was favored by more than a two-to-one margin
> > > - 46 percent to 20 percent, the survey by GlobeScan Inc, a global
> > > research firm, and the local University of Maryland, showed.
> > >
> > > "Only one in five want to see Bush reelected," said Steven Kull,
> > > the university's program on international policy attitudes.
> > > "Though he is not as well known, Kerry would win handily if
> > > the people of the world were to elect the US president."
> > >
> > > The only countries where Bush was preferred in the poll covering
> > > a total of 34,330 people and conducted in July and August were
> > > the Philippines, Nigeria and Poland.  India and Thailand were
> > > divided.
> > >
> > > The margin of error in the survey covering all regions of the
> > > world ranged from plus or minus 2.3 to five percent.
> > >
> > > Kerry was strongly preferred among all of America's traditional allies,
> > > including Norway (74 percent compared with Bush's seven percent),
> > > Germany (74 percent to 10 percent), France (64 percent to five
> > > percent), the Netherlands (63 percent to six percent), Italy (58
> > > percent to 14
>
> percent)
>
> > > and Spain (45 percent to seven percent).
> > >
> > > Even in Britain, where Prime Minister Tony Blair is Bush's closest ally
> > > in the war on terror, Kerry trounced the incumbent 47 percent to 16
>
> percent.
>
> > > Kerry was also greatly favored among Canadians by 61 percent to Bush's
>
> 16
>
> > percent
> >
> > > and among the Japanese by 43 percent to 23 percent. Even among
> > > countries
> >
> > that have
> >
> > > contributed troops to Iraq, most favored Kerry, and said that their
> > > view
>
> of US
>
> > > foreign policy has gotten worse under Bush.
> > >
> > > They included Britain, the Czech Republic, Italy, the Netherlands, the
> > > Dominican Republic, Thailand, Kazakhstan, Japan, Norway and Spain.
> > >
> > > Asked how President Bush's foreign policy had affected their feelings
>
> towards
>
> > > the United States, a majority of those polled in 31 countries said it
>
> made
>
> > them
> >
> > > feel "worse" about America, while those in only three countries said it
> >
> > had made
> >
> > > them feel "better."
> > >
> > > "Perhaps most sobering for Americans is the strength of the view that
> > > US foreign policy is on the wrong track, even in countries contributing
> > > troops in Iraq," said GlobeScan President Doug Miller.
> > >
> > > In Europe, the exception for Bush was a new ally, Polland, where he was
> > > preferred by a narrow majority of 31 percent against Kerry's 26
> > > percent. Another new European ally, the Czech Republic, however went
> > > for Kerry (42 percent to Bush's 18 percent) as did Sweden (58 percent
> > > to 10
>
> percent).
>
> > > Asia was the most mixed region, though Kerry still did better.
> > > Aside from enjoying a large margin in Japan, he was preferred by
> > > clear majorities in China (52 percent to Bush's 12 percent) and
> > > Indonesia (57 percent to 34 percent).  But those polled were
> > > divided in India (Kerry 34 percent, Bush 33 percent) and
> > > Thailand (Kerry 30 percent, Bush 33 percent).
> > >
> > > Latin Americans went for Kerry in all nine countries polled.
> > > In only two cases did Kerry win by a large majority -
> > > Brazil (57 percent to 14 percent) and the
> > > Dominican Republic (51 percent to 38 percent)
> > > - but in most cases the spread was quite wide.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Global Poll Shows a Kerry Landslide
> > > Poll finds him preferred around world
> > > by Thomas Crampton
> > > September 8, 2004 by the International Herald Tribune
> > > http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0908-03.htm
> > >   "Another pattern that became apparent in studying the data was that
> >
> > those people with
> >
> > > higher education and more income were more strongly in favor of Kerry,
> >
> > Kull said."
> >
> > >   "Those at the top of world society are more negative towards Bush
> > > than
> >
> > those at the
> >
> > > bottom," Kull said. "The most likely common link is that those who have
> >
> > the most
> >
> > > access to information tend be more negative towards Bush than those
> > > with
>
> less
>
> > > access to information..."
> > >
> > >
> > > Perhaps this "Global Poll of 32 Nations PROVES that
> > > Kerry Will Rally Allies and Restore Global Support for US"
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