Comments Below:
--- Steve Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Yes, that is the party line. It's not true, or
> rather doesn't have to be
> true, but anything can be done badly. The US Farm
> industry has swallowed the
> line that huge amounts of pesticides, chemical
> fertilizers, and irrigation
> must be used to make plastic crops.

{ken} an interesting point is that loss of crops to
insects and plants disease with the use of pesticides,
fungacides etc. is about 10%, about the same loss that
occurred in the 30's before widespead use of "modern"
farming techniques. 


 
> Many farmers have bucked the system, and gone back
> to farming methods  from
> 100 years ago  and have found that their yields have
> improved, the quality
> of the product has improved, and their expenses have
> dropped. Let nature
> work with you instead of fighting it.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Riznyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Changing Government Agendas
> -was: Kerry
> preferredaround World - Poll
> 
> 
> > The reason the government is promoting ethanol
> > production is because of the farm lobby. In
> general
> > the production of ethanol is an energy loss. The
> > fossil fuels used to plow, fertilize, ferment and
> > distill ethanol require the input of more energy
> than
> > is obtained from the ethanol produced.
> > Ken
> > --- MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >  <SNIP>
> > > > I would love to be able
> > > > to present a "results focused" paper for
> > > consideration.  That is where
> > > > the real power in change lies--not in who is
> > > elected and dancing to
> > > > perceived public opinion.
> > > >
> > > > Peggy
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Kerry Pledges to Help Struggling Rural
> > > Communities
> > > > > Achieve Economic Sustainability
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?ReleaseID=34769
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  I find it interesting that a number of states
> such
> > > as Minnesota,
> > >  Iowa, Wisconsin, North & South Dakota,
> California,
> > > Nebraska to
> > >  name few around the USA have introduced
> alternative
> > > biofuel
> > >  such as ethanol into not only the government
> > > transportation mix
> > >  but also to the public which may have had
> something
> > > to do with
> > >  public opinion or was there some other reasons
> for
> > > it.
> > >
> > >  A previous Subject: Re: [biofuel] 81% of US
> support
> > > Climate Stewardship Act
> > >  Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004
> > > 
> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0628-11.htm
> > >
> > >  indicates to me which candidate for POTUS would
> > > likely take more interest
> > >  in biofuels - the Bush Cheney oil
> administration
> > > -or- Kerry Edwards.
> > >
> > >    "Public support is also strong for using tax
> > > incentives to encourage
> > >    utility companies to use cleaner energy
> > > technologies and car-buyers
> > >    to purchase more energy-efficient cars,
> according
> > > to the survey,
> > >    which was conducted by the University of
> > > Maryland's Program on
> > >    International Policy Attitudes (PIPA).
> > >
> > >    Moreover, slightly more than half of
> respondents
> > > (52 percent) said
> > >    a candidate's support for the cutting
> emissions
> > > would incline them
> > >    more to vote for them in November, while only
> 14
> > > percent said that
> > >    such support would make them less inclined to
> > > vote for him.
> > >    Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry
> has
> > > endorsed the bill,
> > >    officially known as the Climate Stewardship
> Act
> > > (CSA), while
> > >    President George W. Bush opposes it.
> > >
> > >    Nearly two-thirds of respondents (64 percent)
> > > said they would want
> > >    their member of Congress to support the Kyoto
> > > Protocol, which is
> > >    also supported by Kerry but opposed by Bush."
> > >
> > >  This News Archive
> http://www.bbibiofuels.com/news/
> > >  might be of interest but probably not for the
> small
> > > producer.
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