"Most all of us would <sic> like to have a section on the ballot that says "Neither candidate is suitable. Please try again.""
I like that. Thank you! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 11:50 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Israel's "Terrorists" > Hello Enthusiasts, > > There are sections of this recent post from Robert that are so powerful > that they need to be repeated. I read it several times and excuse me > for highlighting what I consider as important elements, but here goes... > > "Alfred E. Newman" debates "Farmer John". I changed some of the wording > to suit my frame of mind and added a few paragraphs. Sometimes three > people in a post are confusing. Too bad we can't use different colors > to understand who is talking. > > And it is true that... "Many Americans believe that we act with the > world's best interest in mind." It all started in school and church. > Our beliefs can't change without replacing them with a new belief. > Therefore, when we rip out a deeply imbedded belief, we need a new one > to pop into its place. This is basic to human nature > > "Those of us who live most anywhere else <sic> have very little say in > national politics, as the candidates are essentially chosen for us by > the political system on the east coast. I watched the debate in stunned > amazement that "Mickey Mouse" and "Dopey" are both vying for the > opportunity to <sic> feed their egos as king of the country for a short > while. Nuclear or not...there are so many different issues that are too > federally controlled. > > Most all of us would <sic> like to have a section on the ballot that > says "Neither candidate is suitable. Please try again." > > > But let's back on biofuel subject : at last Kyoto protocol has been > > ratified and the US industry will be obliged to make efforts to > compete > > with more virtuous companies especially in Europe. It should be good > for > > the planet...and the americans who are living on. Despite their > government. > > This next statement does not make sense... especially when applied to > rural economic development. Returning the power back to the farmers for > self-sufficiency and producing an excess to sell to others is agreeable. > I will meet with both Department of Ag and Department of Energy people > from a western state in a couple of weeks. They are ready, willing, and > able to help start-up people.... and this is not BIG BUSINESS or > industry. This is a community project that is intended to be cloned > throughout the state. And it is biomass focused on waste materials. No > fertilizers or pesticides involved!!! > > > Biofuel is suspected to be a carbon wells but with a bad ecological > > balance when produced even from organic and extensive agriculture if > far > > from consumption places and if the fuel needs heavy process. > > We have discussed this problem at length in this forum. Regional and > community level energy resource development must follow after > conservation, otherwise, we'll end up with Big Agribusiness displacing > Big Oil. > > > One of the only ecologicaly interresting way right now is in a "short > > circuit" meaning local organic production of vegetal oil and local > > consumption in basic diesel motors (or more efficient special built > ones) > > So why can't you guys understand that there are two players in the > biofuels arena. Biodiesel and Fuel Ethanol. Fuel ethanol is quite > legal in most places and can utilize waste materials. I sound like a > broken record, but the premises is that many SMALL PRODUCTION FACILITIES > can do more ultimate good than the huge facilities supported by the > government. And we intend to prove this again and again and again. I > hope to set up a web site soon. All it takes is time and money and/ or > a little know how. > > You have your finger on an important principle. As you describe > > further on, sometimes government gets in the way of such progress. > This is true in Canada as well. I cannot produce ethanol for my > vehicle where I live. It's illegal to do so. I'm allowed to waste a > lot of electricity making hydrogen from the grid (and run my vehicle > on H2), but I'm not permitted to distill ethanol. There are farms all > over the valley where I live that simply burn their "agricultural > residue" and pollute the air (rather than gasifying it for energy), > but I can't aid in cleaning the airshed by burning ethanol in my truck. > > And you mentioned two important things in this paragraph. First, our > system to make fuel ethanol runs on cellulosic waste. And second, our > system comes with a generator that produces electricity. What you do > with that electricity is your business. You can sell it back to the > electrical company or use it for your own purposes...even to produce > hydrogen, if you like. Perhaps you should be working toward legalizing > fuel ethanol at this time. And when you are ready to set up a real > system and do some real good, we can help. > > Peggy > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
