Keith,

I think part of the confusion was that my email that started a rather
long thread had two separate topics.  I had no idea that it would
launch such a discussion, if I had I would have separated the posts.

Andy


On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:32:59 +0900, Keith Addison
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Keith,
> >
> >I haven't found anything to expect an enzyme in the Biox reaction.
> 
> I don't think Ken or I were talking about the Biox reaction. Ken cut
> your para on Biox and doubts using isopropanol in a base-catalyzed
> reaction will work, I agreed and posted a link to information on
> using isopropanol with enzymes. That seems perfectly clear.
> 
> > I
> >think it is simply using MTBE or similar to create a single phase so
> >the reaction takes place faster.  I am trying to get copies of the
> >articles from the 90's when this technique was discussed a lot more.
> >Do you have any of the articles on using cosolvents?
> 
> This was covered in my other post to you, see next response.
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> >Andy
> >
> >
> >On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:07:51 +0900, Keith Addison
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >on 1/14/05 6:05 AM, Andrew Cunningham at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am helping a friend setup a reactor and he has 4 55 gallon drums of
> > > > > IPA.  He has little time so it is slow going, but I will let you know
> > > > > how it goes.  Since the it has the higher boiling point we will run at
> > > > > a higher temperatures.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Are you talking about using isopropanol in a base-catalyzed
> > > >transesterification? From what I know about the behavior of
> > > >ethanol compared to methanol, I'd be surprised if it worked
> > > >at all. I think VERY little isopropoxide would be produced,
> > > >and possibly KOH wouldn't even be soluble (this would be easy
> > > >to check, of course, I'm just being an armchair commentator
> > > >here :-)).
> > > >
> > > >Even if you could get the alkoxide to form, I bet the glycerol
> > > >would be too soluble to ever drop out. Have you ever actually
> > > >made biodiesel this way in small quantities?     -K
> > >
> > > I agree with you Ken, I don't think it works. Several people who know
> > > what they're at have told me they'd tried it without any success.
> > >
> > > AFAIK it's an enzyme-catalysed process - ie, it's lab stuff, not
> > > (yet) for the real world.
> > >
> > > See:
> > > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/28089/
> > > Date: 2003-09-11
> > > From: Keith Addison
> > > Subject: Re: R: [biofuel] Butanol v Methanol
> > >
> > > (Foglia's patent on branched alkyl esters)
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > >
> > > Keith
> 
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