so how the heck does it work with electric vehicles then? That's a chemical reaction.
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Thor- > > The federal definition of "fuel" includes any > substance capable of releasing > energy or power by combustion or other chemical or > physical reaction. That > about covers anything other than sneeze power. Looks > like all of those SVO > conversions are liable for unpaid road tax. I > believe the minimum fine for > using a vehicle on the road with untaxed fuel is > $2000. (tax section 6714 > (a)(3)) > > Tom > > > In a message dated 7/27/02 1:00:39 PM, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Tom, > > Any idea if SVO counts as a personal use fuel? > > thor > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi Keith, > > > > I try to keep myself far from legal matters as > > possible, but here is my > > belief. Commerce is defined under federal codes as > > selling or bartering. I > > don't have a reference to that, but it should not > be > > hard to confirm. As you > > imply, it is hard to document barter arrangements, > > but if something was to go > > big scale, it could be a vulnerability for federal > > prosecution. > > > > Road tax is supposed to be paid on all fuel used > for > > road transportation. > > This is the basis of the multi-thousand dollar > fines > > some truckers have paid > > when it was discovered that they were using > un-taxed > > fuel in trucks. As you > > know, the standard test for that is to put a few > > drops of fuel from a suspect > > tank on a piece of blotter paper and look for the > > tell-tale red dye of > > untaxed fuel. But, surprise, no red dye in > > biodiesel, so the chances of > > getting caught are less. So far no one has > reported > > this situation to my > > knowledge. And yes, tax is due on personal use > fuel- > > quarterly on the Excise > > Tax forms for federal road tax, and ususally > monthly > > on state tax forms. The > > postage alone will cost more than the tax payments > > for the personal user. I > > paid over $700 last year in federal and state tax > > payments, but the EPA says > > they will use that as evidence I'm violating > 40CFR79 > > if I make more tax > > payments for other than personal use, so I've > > stopped for a while until this > > gets sorted out. > > > > Tom Leue > > > > In a message dated 7/26/02 11:25:27 PM, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > << Hello again Tom > > > > >In a message dated 7/22/02 10:11:41 PM, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > ><< Hello Tom > > > > <snip> > > > > >The EPA says they will > > > >fine small producers up to $25,000 a day if > they > > find your are putting > > > >biodiesel fuel into "commerce", meaning selling > > it or bartering it. > > > > > >Bartering it? They actually specify that? > > > > > >---Yeah, its the legal definition of > "commerce"--- > > > > Sorry, whose definition? The EPA's specifically, > in > > this context? Or > > generally? Barter might be commerce, but it's > > virtually impossible to > > regulate it. Or even to prove it, if you're smart, > > seems to me. Two > > parties give each other gifts on a semi-regular > > basis. So? > > > > By the way, if you are selling it, who pays the > road > > tax? Is there > > any road tax on fuel you make yourself for your > own > > use in the US? > > > > Keith >> >> > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/NsdPZD/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/9bTolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
