Hi;

Good points; hopefully you are right.

Alex
--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hello;
> >
> >Good point about third world...
> >
> >I can see the time when bio diesel will be marketed
> as
> >a 'super' fuel and will priced accordingly--simple
> >marketing dynamics. The only ones who will be able
> to
> >afford it will be the very poor through aid
> programs
> >or the well-to-do.
> >
> >I base this on my belief that raw fuel stocks such
> as
> >WVO will become commodities-especially by the
> bigger
> >chains McDonald'scDonalds-that can improve the
> >profitability of restaurants.
> >
> >Oil is big business and when its demise comes bio
> >diesel will be big business.  My advise to the
> small
> >producers is enjoy the present and be prepared to
> be
> >eaten by the sharks( via buy outs or other less
> >pleasant means).
> >
> >Best Regards
> >
> >Alex Landels
> 
> Lots been written here about the potential of
> local-niche production 
> and much besides. There are many local-type
> scenarios where the big 
> guys won't be able to compete, not just on a price
> basis, there are 
> often other factors at work. Growth in at least some
> of these areas 
> is already quite rapid. On-farm production,
> especially from 
> integrated farms rather than monocroppers, is
> another such case, also 
> growing rapidly. Costs can be essentially zero, and
> direct costs 
> aside, on-farm economics will tend to keep outside
> stuff outside, no 
> benefit.
> 
> It doesn't just depend on WVO availability, though
> that's a few 
> billion gallons a year in the US. In most
> industrialized countries 
> collection levels are about 10%. It's unlikely to be
> optimized, no 
> matter how valuable it gets or how much the Big Guys
> might be after 
> it, unless collection starts at the local level, at
> point of 
> production. This applies to virtually all waste
> recycling. And it 
> leaves plenty of scope for small-scale operators and
> DIYers who're 
> also working at that level. Take a closer look at
> some of the things 
> in Mark's post about local-level initiatives.
> 
> Much also been written about Big Biodiesel, and
> people expecting to 
> be brushed aside when the time comes. There could
> already be too much 
> local stuff going on for that to happen quite so
> easily. If the 
> sharks come too close they could get torn to pieces
> by piranhas.
> 
> For a comparison, local farmers' markets and CSAs
> are growing apace, 
> and there's absolutely nothing that big agribiz
> interests can do 
> about it, much as I'm sure they'd like to. The USDA
> organic standards 
> a few posts have mentioned were such an attempt, but
> very many real 
> organic farms have simply opted out and continue
> dealing with their 
> local markets without any problems. This is also
> capitalism at work, 
> you know - more so than big, centralized corporatism
> is, and it's 
> more American anyway.
> 
> Best
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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