On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 09:14:02 +0100, you wrote: > > >Hi MM, > >Look at, > >http://california.energy.saving.nu/
California has about 12% of U.S. population (33 million out of 272 million as of 1999 Almanac Figures), not the "nearly 20%" that you have in your statement at that top. Even accounting for statistical messups associated with illegal immigration making the numbers hard to figure out, I don't think it would come out to nearly 20% (maybe I'm wrong). Your other research that I've glanced at looks very in-depth, so I'm sure you had attention to accuracy. I'd have to give some thought as to the issues more in-depth, but it's clear that you've given a lot of attention to the matter. >especially, > >http://energy.saving.nu/california/victim.shtml > >and > >http://peakdemand.energy.saving.nu/ >http://fastfixes.energy.saving.nu/ > >and you will find some data. > >It is quite interesting and you can see what I was pointing out >earlier. > >Hakan > > >At 11:49 PM 1/25/2003 -0800, you wrote: >>You know, while it may be true that Californians have practiced and >>studied some good conservation principles, I also think David has a >>point. Back when I was taking some hard look at America's overall >>energy usage, home heating oil is a very significant part of that >>usage. Sometimes the statisticians will break out home heating oil >>from other statistics because it can tend to skew our understanding. >> >>Home heating oil is, I think, not as important in some parts of the >>country. >> >>We do have heating and cooling needs here in San Diego, but it is >>somewhat a matter of degree and location. By the ocean, it is cooler >>and one doesn't need A/C as much. Further inland A/C could be more >>important, it can get *very* hot in some areas, but it is dry here and >>not like some of the more humid extreme-heat situations. >> >>As to energy needs during cool periods, it is important to have heat, >>but obviously not as important nor as demanding on the energy supply >>as in a climate that often goes well below freezing, such as one finds >>in other parts of the country. >> >> >> >>On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:16:48 +0100, you wrote: >> >> > >> >Hi David, >> > >> >The fact is that California during many years have a very active >> >program for saving of energy. This is the reason, because if you >> >look at other states in US, with similar climate conditions, they >> >are at average or above average. Of course, a lot is AC in those >> >states, very much offices. If you look at statistics over the years >> >and growth, you can clearly see that it is man made savings. >> > >> >California is the state that is and has been the most active state >> >in US, when it comes to energy conservation and pollution. We >> >had many exchange students and visiting professors from California >> >in the Swedish universities. >> > >> >Still the Californian use twice as much energy as the average Swede. >> >But they are best in the US after Hawaii, which is definitely determined >> >by the climate. >> > >> >Hakan >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >At 06:55 PM 1/23/2003 -0500, you wrote: >> >>Re: >> >>Californians 50% >> >> >> >>I don't want to step on a good thing, but is it 50% because of the climate, >> >>or 50% because Californians are >> >>different or more energy conscious? >> >> >> >>My gfather lives in San Diego. He almost never has to turn the heat on, >> >>ever. He only uses AC on the >> >>hotest of days.. perhaps 5 days if that. >> >> >> >>Contrast that to my coast, and its cold cold cold in the winter.. and hot >> >>and muggy in the summer where you >> >>might leave the AC in the car on while you tkae a shower and get ready for >> >>your date..lest you get all sweaty before you AC can >> >>cool your car. <not everyone owns a garage> >> >> >> >> >> >>So i dont really like the 50% one.. >> >> >> >>on the other hand.. THIS ONE >> >>http://energy.saving.nu/biofuel-sticker-3.jpg >> >> >> >>is absolutely hilarious. and gives you the secondary point of committing >> >>suicide on your dependence on the pump. >> >> >> >>funny.. :) >> > >> > >> > >> >Biofuels at Journey to Forever >> >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >Biofuel at WebConX >> >http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm >> >List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: >> >http://archive.nnytech.net/ >> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> > >> >Your use of Yahoo! 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