Hope springs eternal, as indeed it should, but in a field where there is no case that has not proved to be a scam hope is best leavened with due scepticism.
Posted several times before: >Eric Krieg lists 78 free energy scams here, doesn't seem to get into >the zero-point stuff and instant cold fusion, so there's all that >besides: >http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html >Eric's history of Perpetual Motion and Free Energy Machines > >Plus: >How to become a Free Energy con man >http://www.phact.org/e/con_man.htm > >And: >The Museum of Unworkable Devices >http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm Best Keith > >Frank, I think the link shows some experiment of him attempting to apply the > >use in a go cart, I didn't understand what he was trying to do. > >The most interesting concept to me might be to configure it with a magnet > >and coil similar to the induction flashlights that work by shaking (sliding > >a magnet back and forth through a coil). > >Somewhere in the link you will also see the idea to attach magnets at either > >end of the pendulum swing. This or electro magnets should keep the unit in > >motion indefinitely. > >All in all I think the most beautiful part of this invention is a water pump > >for developing nation's farmers. > >http://www.rexresearch.com/milkovic/milkovic.htm > >http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/pendpump.htm >The water hand-pump with pendulum of Veljko Milkovic > >It would be beautiful if there are or ever were any working examples >that actually pumped water with 9:1 over-unity energy, or any >over-unity, do you know of any such examples? > >Do you know of any other working, real-world, attested, authenticated >examples of this over-unity device working? Or of any over-unity >device working? > >I think this about sums it up: > > >"I did look at several sites describing the "pendulum of Veljko > >Milkovic". It seems like a neat little device and it does provide > >for hands-free operation because the human force is stored in the > >pendulum swing so that the pump continues to pump for awhile after > >the push. > > > >The machine is not a free energy device. All the energy for the pump > >comes from the person pushing the pendulum. If it were really > >overunity (one claim was 9 times as much energy out as in), it would > >be easy to set it up to pump forever. > > > >Its a neat little invention. It is not free energy. It is not > >perpetual motion. It is not over-unity. It is a cool hand pump. > >There are many hand pumps of many designs available. Show me one > >that pumps without input energy from a person or other source and > >then we will have "free energy". > >http://www.steorn.net/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=35461#Item_6 > >I doubt dangling magnets off it will help much. > >Best > >Keith > > > >Wes > > > >Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:31:04 -0500 > >From: "Frank Navarrete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Castor oil as a therapy > >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >Message-ID: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > > > >Hi Wes, > >Interesting link to Milkovic's work. I wonder if you could apply > >added pendulum energy to a bicycle, and have a sort of long-distance > >low-effort gear. _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/