> >     My father-in-law grew up on a farm and didn't like it.  He's
> > convinced that most people nowadays wouldn't tolerate the kind of hard
> > labor necessary to survive on the land, but my experience with gardening
> > makes me question how "hard" this labor really is . . .  Yes, I've used
> > a rotovator and I have a shredder that speeds up the composting process,
> > but these things COULD be done by hand if I really had to do them, and
> > the exercise wouldn't hurt, either.
> >
> >
>The difference is one of income vs labor.  In most white collar jobs you
>are not paid based stictly on what you produce, or your 'production' is
>not tangible.  Farming. . . you only make what you work for.  And many
>times something gets in the way. . . weather, equipment problems, bugs,
>fertility problems.  Without charging wild oats prices it is *very* hard
>to make a living growing produce without relying on minimum wage/slave
>labor.  Even if you are making a living, it will be modest by american
>standards (40k household income would be an outstanding year).   Yet
>there are many perks. . . no commute. . . getting to watch your
>neighbors line up for a 1.5 hr commute. . . and various intangibles.  It
>can be a good life for the right person, but I agree that most of my
>generation, ~30, are not willing.  Or they jump in half baked, throwing
>money at problems that just need creativity and grease.
>
>You'll know it when you find it--just do your homework.
>John

But John, you're operating within a false and distorted economy with 
degenerate values. It won't last. Either it will change or we're all 
doomed anyway.

Best

Keith


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