Hi John, In Canada its the price of land that is the stumbling block. Terry Dyck> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:33:31 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Feeding people is easy: but we have to re-think the world from first principles> > > > My father-in-law grew up on a farm and didn't like it. He's > > convinced that most people nowadays wouldn't tolerate the kind of hard > > labor necessary to survive on the land, but my experience with gardening > > makes me question how "hard" this labor really is . . . Yes, I've used > > a rotovator and I have a shredder that speeds up the composting process, > > but these things COULD be done by hand if I really had to do them, and > > the exercise wouldn't hurt, either.> >> > > The difference is one of income vs labor. In most white collar jobs you> are not paid based stictly on what you produce, or your 'production' is> not tangible. Farming. . . you only make what you work for. And many> times something gets in the way. . . weather, equipment problems, bugs,> fertility problems. Without charging wild oats prices it is *very* hard> to make a living growing produce without relying on minimum wage/slave> labor. Even if you are making a living, it will be modest by american> standards (40k household income would be an outstanding year). Yet> there are many perks. . . no commute. . . getting to watch your> neighbors line up for a 1.5 hr commute. . . and various intangibles. It> can be a good life for the right person, but I agree that most of my> generation, ~30, are not willing. Or they jump in half baked, throwing> money at problems that just need creativity and grease.> > You'll know it when you find it--just do your homework.> John> > _______________________________________________> Biofuel mailing list> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel> > Biofuel at Journey to Forever:> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html> > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages):> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _________________________________________________________________ Be seen when you can't be heard! Discover how today! http://www.freemessengeremoticons.ca/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20071005/60b56480/attachment.html _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
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