Hi Mateusz,

On 17 Feb 2022, at 10:39, Mateusz Viste via Svardos-users wrote:

> This message is in response to ticket 43881 at 
> https://osdn.net/projects/svardos/ticket/43881 where Robert says:
>
>> On the error list at http://www.svardos.org/?p=repo&showlogs=1#logs I 
>> noticed several programs, e.g., APPEND, ASSIGN, which were part of MS-DOS, 
>> but are currently no core package in SvarDOS.
>
> When I created the initial version of SvarDOS, I wanted to make it as lean as 
> possible, and excluded some of such "MSDOS-like" programs that I myself 
> rarely used (append, assign, debug, print, ...). This was to keep the number 
> of installation floppies as low as possible, so SvarDOS included only things 
> that are truly critical: disk management (fdisk), shell (COMMAND.COM) and a 
> few programs that managing files would be a pain without (move, tree, xcopy, 
> ...).
>
> Now, what are the options for these MSDOS-like programs that are not part of 
> CORE?
>
> 1. make them all part of CORE "because they were in MSDOS 5.x and SvarDOS 
> tries to mimic that", we might go from 3 5.25 install floppies to 4, but is 
> it really a problem?
> 2. move them to a separate directory (progs)
> 3. tolerate their presence in bin/ by flagging them as some kind of 
> "core-extended" packages (not present on install floppies, but user can still 
> install them via pkgnet)
>
> While I am pretty sure option 2 is plain stupid, I am mitigated between 
> options 1 and 3. I think I have a preference for 3, but then it requires 
> writing some kind of rules that say what kind of MS-DOS-like packages are not 
> part of SvarDOS, and on what criterion. I don't really know how to put that 
> in writing objectively.
>

I would vote for option 3. As the rule, you wrote "include only things that are 
truly critical". I think that is a good rule.

> There is one thing that is important to me, though: it's that the entire 
> SvarDOS installation stays on a single 2.88 diskette so it can still be 
> installed from a CD via a BIOS-emulated drive, ie. without requiring any kind 
> of drivers. Currently we have about 280K of available space on the 2.88 
> image. That will increase to some 800K when SvarCOM will replace FreeCOM, so 
> still "a lot" of place... although we should keep some space for including 
> networking drivers in the future for users to have an easier access to 
> networking.
>

+1

Greetings

Carsten

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