The average person doesn't know, doesn't care and shouldn't have to care about the underlying technology. Developers care. There are a growing number of target platforms which is great. We need solid, simple tools that allow people to create applications that target open standards (i.e. SVG, XForms, Javascript, XHTML) for their output without requiring the tool users to be experts in every one of those languages.
Things do look grim when there are so many big companies with a vested interest in competing against SVG and open standards. I guess the best thing that could happen for proliferation of SVG would be a group on the tools side that's equivalent to Mozilla or Opera on the rendering side. I can see it happening, SVG and open standards are too compelling to too many people not to succeed. Rob Russell http://www.getsvg.com/forum --- In [email protected], Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just like with the browser wars, the tech that "wins" will be the tech > with critical mass. SVG will struggle to gain that against the likes of > MS and Adobe, each of which has a stake in not allowing SVG to dominate > the RIA market. > > That said, I'm very heartened by the great level of SVG support in FF > and the fact that it is increasing its market share at a good rate > (likewise Opera). I hope that sufficient people can see the value in > living in a world where what we're able to do isn't dictated by one or > two powerful players for that trend to continue. > > Guy > > Robert Russell wrote: > > I don't think it's Flash that SVG is really going to go head to head > > against but XAML. I'm guessing that people are going to start forming > > up around either new MS stuff or W3C stuff for their RIA (Rich > > Internet Applications - I didn't invent it, I'm just using it because > > we all know what it is) development. > > > > It's just an idea I've had floating around since I started noticing > > the pieces that you'd need to compete against MS with open source (or > > just non-MS) tools. > > > > SVG is not the entirety of that suite, but it's one important part. > > > > --- In [email protected], Bill Thoen <bthoen@> wrote: > > > >> a_spit_wad wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Strictly looking at the number of posts on this board, 2002 and 2003 > >>> looks like the golden years. > >>> > >>> Are developers posting in another forum or is SVG dying a slow death? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> I've noticed that too, and I've heard it from at least one other ex-SVG > >> developer (contrasted with a few yeas ago, when everybody was saying it > >> was going to triumph over Flash and anything else.) However, it was > >> Firefox 1.5's built-in SVG support that got me interested in SVG again, > >> so maybe developments such as this will revitalize it in other people's > >> minds too. Also, an open source MapInfo MIF to SVG translator that I > >> wrote for the MapInfo environment (ftp://ftp.gisnet.com/pub > >> > > /MI2SVG.zip) > > > >> has been my second-most popular download for the last couple of years, > >> so I don't think SVG is dead just yet. > >> > >> But if the browser developers don't get it together and make all > >> implementations conform to the SAME standard in the next year or so, I > >> think people are going to get tired of stupid hassles like that and > >> they'll be looking to try something else. > >> > >> - Bill Thoen > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -or- > > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" > > ---- > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

