On 5/6/06, Doug Schepers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just a note here to indicate a major obstacle/opportunity for SVG in IE. IE > does not currently support DOM2 (much less DOM3), and thus many of the > methods and consistency of scripting that we are used to in SVG would not > be > there if IE implemented SVG today. So, while I am definitely hoping that > IE > will eventually support SVG, I don't think it will happen until they build > a > new DOM engine. By that same token, when/if they do build it (and they > have > to, in order to make a competitive modern browser), SVG will be much > easier > for them to add on top while they are in the process. Overall, I'm > optimistic, but I'm prepared to be patient. > > Regards- > Doug > > > Jeff Schiller wrote:
I agreed on that. To me; as the situation right now it seem to be hopeless for IE to bundle ASV. I don't think MS is not going to consider to do it until at least it get then firm commitment ASV's side; beside logistical and cost affect of the move. I do not advocate for mine, but just try inject some vitamins into "this pessimistic" environment -I think ?. - And also it too excit for not to say something about it, Since it very first approach all SVG players: ADOBE, FF, Batik. . . stay the direction where SVG as a 'Child" development platform it is very much ind pendent from other element of the DOM tree so that why it stay in 'specialty product' this make me rethink on this issue. Believe or not making IE to support SVG is hard even it is harder than making browserS (big S). that run on windows platform I think by the end of next week I will have a link for you play with the different but paint less approach to the SVG saga. I assure you it will make your live much easier then you think. It is simple as this: <img src="SVGdata:File/Load;charset=US-ASCII,SIG=abcd, http://YourDomain.com/images/Your.svg"; . . .> or: YourImg.src="SVGdata:Data/Load;charset=US-ASCII,SIG=abcd," +SvgXMLDocument.ToString(); Thru (AJAX but run locally at client side) you will have much more available information of that image.such as the absolute color of a pixel on your img . . . >From there you will process all event as if it is the normal html. Cheers. PHI. (Just a note: If -as the community- If you decide to use it then you guy should come up with some kind of escrow to make it become public if thing happen to me or mine causing us not continue further- You never know. And also to ensure that you WILL not going to be hung). | > | Francis, > | > | Not sure why I'm nominated, but thanks - I guess ;) > | > | Anyway, I did send a request to Chris Wilson on his personal blog > | feedback form for more information regarding SVG in IE and in > | particular what was said about SVG and IE at MIX06. I never received > | a reply, I assume he's swamped. > | > | However, tonight the IEBlog did put up links to MIX06 videos (each at > | 1-hour long). Go read my summary here: > | http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2006/05/04/the-future-of-in > | ternet-explorer-and-web-standards/ > | there was a small mention of SVG in the middle of one of the videos. > | > | Regards, > | Jeff > | > | --- In [email protected], "Francis Hemsher" > | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > > | > Hello All, > | > > | > I've looked at the recent votes, and its at about 185 and > | continuing. > | > > | > I guess we could go on for the next few months and build > | this to any > | > number. I think it's time to make a statement to the IEblog, rather > | > than extend this further. > | > > | > I'd like to nominate Jeff Schiller to revisit that blog to present > | > the "SVG Developers Statement", based on the comments from the > | > voting list. > | > > | > This statement would assist the IE7 team to make a > | decision, and see > | > the future if the right decision is made. > | > > | > We can quicky build this statement on this list, giving opportunity > | > for all to provide their input. > | > > | > Francis > | > > | > --- In [email protected], "Doug Schepers" <doug@> > | > wrote: > | > > > | > > Hi, Francis- > | > > > | > > Nice work getting this ball rolling. I'm not sure how much affect > | > it will > | > > have, but it certainly can't hurt. I also posted this to SVG.org. > | > > > | > > Francis Hemsher wrote: > | > > | > | > > | P.S. hopefully we will be a legitimate bug for IE8's native > | > > | SVG Object. > | > > > | > > There will probably be updates between IE7 and IE8... let's hope > | > they > | > > include SVG ASAP. > | > > > | > > Regards- > | > > Doug > | > > > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > | --------------------~--> > | Everything you need is oneclick away. Make Yahoo! your home > | pagenow. > | http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM > | -------------------------------------------------------------- > | ------~-> > | > | ----- > | To unsubscribe send a message to: > | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | -or- > | visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click > | "edit my membership" > | ---- > | Yahoo! 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